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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
Micah #249887 03/02/09 09:08 PM
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I know we've been to the moon, I saw the flag the other night. ;\)




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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
SirQuack #249897 03/02/09 09:20 PM
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Cool sub Casing.


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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
MarkSJohnson #249900 03/02/09 09:28 PM
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Here is what Randy has been doing in his spare time. ;\)


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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
Adrian #249903 03/02/09 09:31 PM
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I think that was RickF's house at the 36sec mark... ;\)


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Adrian #249904 03/02/09 09:31 PM
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NO, NO. It goes in front of the projector to make 965" image of the Moon!


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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
Zimm #249922 03/02/09 10:49 PM
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I'm beginning to understand that high end audio circles are populated by mostly A.D.D.survivors. And when I mention A.D.D. I'm talking about the... hey look, a pretty flower.


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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
Micah #249939 03/03/09 12:59 AM
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No, A.D.D. is:

Recorded on analog tape
Mixed in the digital domain
Mastered digitally


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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
Micah #249953 03/03/09 03:46 AM
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 Originally Posted By: Micah
I'm beginning to understand that high end audio circles are populated by mostly A.D.D.survivors. And when I mention A.D.D. I'm talking about the... hey look, a pretty flower.

\:D \:D


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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
ClubNeon #249957 03/03/09 04:56 AM
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That and OCD. OK, this is starting to bug me. I have been reading spec sheets to see what they say and its all obfusculated up. One Denon gives a max power rating, the 3808 does not. Maranz 7002/8002 is the same. It only gives the max per channel info.


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Re: Outlaw and Emotiva products...?
fredk #249960 03/03/09 05:40 AM
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I remember Julian Hirsch, the head tester for Stereo Review, giving less than stellar reveiws of amps and receivers that didn't make their specified output.

I just went to Sound and Vision online, and apparently it is now perfectly OK to come up short. I read glowing reviews of a new Denon, an Onkyo and a few others. Amazing how they are rated at, for example, 140X7, but then in parenthesis farther down it says (two channels driven). In fact, I believe it was an Onkyo with a rave review. The sentence was along the lines of "with one channel driven, it easily beat its specified power, and it came close to its rating, even with 5 channels driven." Of cours, all 7 channels was a bit less output yet.

This is a load of crap. Amplifiers and receivers should be rated as watts per all channels driven into 8/4 ohms from 20-20k at .01% distortion. They should need to meet their ratings.

Heck, one of the reviews showed that a 90X7 receiver put out 85x5 and 80X7, but then their was an asterisk behind the results. When I looked at the asterisk on the bottom of the test results, it said that this power was sustained for several MILLISECONDS before thermal protection reduced power output to 1/3 of that. Is that somehow real world? This tells me that if I bought this 90X7 reciever, I could expect protection to limit it to about 27X7. Come on...that is 6db of headroom lost!

I am not trying to be a butthead, but this is wrong. Don't play games. List power as watts per channel continuous (not short transient bursts), all channels driven into 8 and 4 ohms (dual ratings) from 20-20kHz (full spectrum white noise, not a simple 1kHz sine wave) at .01% THD (to keep all the players honest!).

Apples to apples!


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