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#254511 - 03/30/09 05:33 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: Ken.C]
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
I'll probably be shot for this, but

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#254518 - 03/30/09 05:45 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: pmbuko]
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#254528 - 03/30/09 06:01 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: Adrian]
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
It's entirely possible that the RS6's sound closer to the M50's as they are similar in design...2 1/2 way vs the 3 way design of the M60s and M80s. Regardless, they are an enjoyable speaker to listen too.
I just felt they sounded simialr to the M60s. I think as Ken said it really is splitting hairs as to the sound of each, but I know I was taken aback at the less forward sound of the M60s compared to my M22s, but now that I have heard the M22v2, I think the M60/M22 are very close. My M22s Ti's are closer to the M80s forwardness, which is why I ended up with M80s and most likely why I feel most other speakers sound closer to the M60's sound except but a few.
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#254533 - 03/30/09 06:11 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: jakewash]
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Were you able to A/B them Jay? I heard the RS6s but only up against their larger sibling, the RS8s.


Edited by Adrian (03/30/09 06:12 PM)
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#254534 - 03/30/09 06:12 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: jakewash]
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Speaker reviews measure many things but the one thing missing is the specs of the listener. I imagine no two ears experience sound exactly the same way. I would describe mine as rather sensitive, not necessarily better or more refined.

When I go to movie theaters I often feel pain because it is too loud. I find offensive a lot of the musak we hear in public places. I usually speak in low voice because I hear myself loud enough. I can't go to concerts with amplified music; my ears can't stand it. I listen only to accoustic music and vocals. I love "good" (cannot define it) music with a full sound without being loud. And I prefer silence to bad music.

Now, how does that translate into a good choice of speakers?
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#254536 - 03/30/09 06:14 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: twoears]
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My wife has the same issue. I think she generally preferred the M50s to the M80s, but that could have been because of positioning issues.
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#254538 - 03/30/09 06:30 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: twoears]
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It sounds like you are describing the type of music you prefer more so than the speakers you like twoears. That said, I thoroughly enjoy playing a wide range of music on my Axioms. Acoustic artists such as James Taylor and The Sundays really shine on them as does classical and well recorded music of virtually any kind. I have a preference for moderate volume in general as well so I can "hear more". I agree with the advice that I was given when auditioning speakers...that would be to use your own music preferences(hopefully quality recordings), give your ears a chance to 'adjust', play at the volume you prefer, take your time and make a note of what you liked/disliked about the speakers so you will remember. It's always good to play "challenging" music with a lot of variance such as Classical music as opposed to Pop or Hip Hop.

Something you see more and more people doing is wearing earplugs at live concerts, which actually help you hear better if they are decent plugs. Often the arenas or venues that are being used have poor acoustics unfortunately.
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#254591 - 03/30/09 10:41 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: Ken.C]
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 Originally Posted By: kcarlile
My wife has the same issue. I think she generally preferred the M50s to the M80s, but that could have been because of positioning issues.


Interesting, how would you describe the difference, especially what made her prefer the M50?
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#254592 - 03/30/09 10:45 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: twoears]
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I'm not really certain. It could certainly merely be a placement issue. The M50s are a bit less accurate than the M80s (slightly recessed treble), although not nearly as much as some would lead you to believe. That may have played into it.

Just asked her; I'm wrong. It was that she preferred the M80s not toed in; firing at her was unpleasant.

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#254595 - 03/30/09 10:57 PM Re: Listening to M50 or similar in Montreal [Re: Adrian]
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 Originally Posted By: Adrian
It sounds like you are describing the type of music you prefer more so than the speakers you like twoears. That said, I thoroughly enjoy playing a wide range of music on my Axioms. Acoustic artists such as James Taylor and The Sundays really shine on them as does classical and well recorded music of virtually any kind. I have a preference for moderate volume in general as well so I can "hear more". I agree with the advice that I was given when auditioning speakers...that would be to use your own music preferences(hopefully quality recordings), give your ears a chance to 'adjust', play at the volume you prefer, take your time and make a note of what you liked/disliked about the speakers so you will remember. It's always good to play "challenging" music with a lot of variance such as Classical music as opposed to Pop or Hip Hop.

I don't master the vocabulary to describe speakers.

If I try I would say that what pleased me in the MA RS6 was that they did not sound boxy, that they were airy, had a generous enveloping bass, the higher frequencies had detail without harshness, the voices sounded warm and generous. I felt like I wanted to continue listening. I don't want to be too lyrical but there is something seductive about them.

Well, that was my attempt with words.
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