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#264844 - 06/29/09 05:30 PM Re: Michael Jackson Dead [Re: medic8r]
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 Originally Posted By: medic8r
But if you threw Ron Howard under the roof of Joe Jackson (No, not that one, you know, Michael's Dad), what would you get?


Tito Jackson? \:\)
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#264845 - 06/29/09 05:35 PM Re: Michael Jackson Dead [Re: BlueJays1]
medic8r Offline
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See, and Tito's not a big-shot Hollywood director. Case closed.

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#264847 - 06/29/09 05:45 PM Re: Michael Jackson Dead [Re: medic8r]
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What Michael went through is hardly an apples to apples comparison to the other siblings. I don't think Jack is talking about "just" his early childhood, but his success later in life, and his smothering surroundings.

I suppose if you were worth close to the Billions mark in your life, everyone would leave you alone.

It is easy for us to make opinions about a lifestyle we will never know.
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#264854 - 06/29/09 06:09 PM Re: Michael Jackson Dead [Re: SirQuack]
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Chill, Randy, we're just joking around. It's something we do, mouthing off about all sorts of stuff. You're right, it's hard to imagine his life. So many handlers, wanna-bes, hangers-on, etc, that I'm sure it's hard for somebody in his situation to tell who is really looking out for his best interests.

I'm reminded of Britney Spears' current situation. She seems particularly ill-equipped mentally to handle fame, and that hanger-on Sam Lufti used her big time. She may very well have a serious mental illness, and at least seems very gullible/impressionable/daft. The courts had to intervene on her behalf and appoint her father guardian of her estate.

It's very heavy stuff to be declared unfit to manage your own estate, so I'm not sure that this could have or should have happened with MJ, but his final years certainly sound like they were pretty miserable. Certainly, if he is felt to be a competent person. i.e. has legal capacity to care for himself, then he bears responsibility for himself.

Again, what a sad, sorry mess his life became.
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#264855 - 06/29/09 07:09 PM Re: Michael Jackson Dead [Re: medic8r]
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Cam, my post was not meant to "excuse" Michael for his behavior. It was meant as a partial explanation of why he was what he was. I firmly believe that, at some point in our lives, no matter what mistakes our parents have made, we ultimately must take full responsibility for who and what we are.

Ken, JaimeG, and J.P all made salient points.

Randy, thanks for "getting" what I meant.

Mike. Couldn't agree more with your point. Was talking, last night, with a friend who said exactly the same thing. Farrah made a courageous fight for life and deserved to be front and center because of it. Sad to see her upstaged.
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#264856 - 06/29/09 07:16 PM Re: Michael Jackson Dead [Re: michael_d]
RickF Offline
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Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 5210
Loc: Vero Beach, Florida
 Originally Posted By: mdrew
I just think it’s sad that his death has obscured Farah’s death. She was an American Icon who deserves more press and grieving than MJ. Did any middle aged man not have her poster on his wall when growing up???


Yea, no kidding Mike.

Man I've spent many a night dreaming about that woman ... RIP Farrah!

On a serious note, here is a great interview with Michael Jackson, MJ Interview
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#264857 - 06/29/09 08:53 PM Re: Michael Jackson Dead [Re: RickF]
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I agree with you on that one Mike, glad I still have one of those posters in safe keeping. \:\)


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#264859 - 06/29/09 09:08 PM Re: Michael Jackson Dead [Re: SirQuack]
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Highest selling poster of all time.
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#264869 - 06/30/09 02:21 AM Re: Michael Jackson Dead [Re: Da_Gimp_Pimp]
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Women have nipples!
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#264871 - 06/30/09 05:57 AM Re: Michael Jackson Dead [Re: pmbuko]
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 Originally Posted By: pmbuko
Women have nipples!

At the age I was when the poster was popular, to me it was more like "nipples have women!"....
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