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Re: Distortion Question (Dave Matthews disc)
laingn2 #265710 07/09/09 01:15 AM
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I can't imagine it's difficult to swap the tweeters, though I can let you know after this weekend!

Are you satisfied with the bass extension of the M3's for music? I was specifically thinking of the M3's vs. M2's/M22's as I will need to run without a sub for the upcoming bookshelf setup.


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Re: Distortion Question (Dave Matthews disc)
cb919 #265722 07/09/09 03:27 AM
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I was actually fairly impressed. I broke them in with some bass-heavy rock/metal and found the extension to be more than adequate.

I've seen them described here as having a small bass hump, which may be the effect you're looking for. I find them to be attractive and the perfect size for a bookshelf application.

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laingn2 #265747 07/09/09 02:59 PM
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Tweeters are very easy to install. Remove the four screws and carefully pull out the tweeter. Next carefully detach the wire connectors. One connector is bigger than the other so wont be able to connect the wires in a wrong manner. After that, reverse the process. Very simple procedure. Enjoy and hopefully this solves your problems.


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Re: Distortion Question (Dave Matthews disc)
cb919 #265770 07/09/09 09:03 PM
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Hi Dan,

This thread and your tweeter problem is really puzzling. You could isolate the problem immediately to either the Blu-ray recording or the tweeters if you have good headphones, which can reveal inherent distortion on recordings faster than using loudspeakers. Turn off the M22s and listen on the headphones. If you still hear the distortion, then it's on the Blu-ray master (not unheard of; I have a number of CDs where you can hear the mike inputs clipping). If you don't hear the distortion, then it's the tweeters.

If the problem were the tweeters, you'd hear the distortion with other CDs. Have you tried other material?

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Re: Distortion Question (Dave Matthews disc)
alan #265773 07/09/09 10:27 PM
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Hi Alan,
I can hear it with other material, however it's REALLY noticeable on the one particular track. On other material it seems to be much less obvious.

I had not thought of trying headphones from my receiver on the same track - that's a great idea and I will try that as soon as I get home (I'm currently traveling). However as mentioned I did a similar experiment by listening to the same track from the same album from the Dave Matthews web site with my headphones at the office. I could not hear the same distortion I am hearing at home.

Thanks again - I'll let you know what happens.


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Re: Distortion Question (Dave Matthews disc)
cb919 #265774 07/09/09 10:39 PM
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It's undoubtedly a different compression scheme on the site as opposed to the disc, and it could be different mastering. I'd say definitely check it as Alan suggested.


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Re: Distortion Question (Dave Matthews disc)
Ken.C #265775 07/09/09 10:44 PM
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Fully agreed - I plan to do just that as soon as I manage to get myself home!


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Re: Distortion Question (Dave Matthews disc)
cb919 #265891 07/11/09 01:42 PM
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I'm not positive, but I don't think the encore (for some odd reason) is done the same as the rest of the disc. I believe I've noticed the same thing. I'll check it out again and give you my feedback.


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Ya_basta #266184 07/15/09 01:18 AM
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I'll need to check my speakers as well, since I've noticed it faintly several different times. Please let me know if there are certain test principles I should be using.

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laingn2 #266221 07/15/09 12:49 PM
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I don't 'recall' such noises in my copy of that recording but honestly, I rarely get all the way to the encore unless it's just playing as background music and I'm not listening that closely.

The only time I regularly get a distortion like sound is when playing Rockband. Despite the praise for Rockband's use of the original masters, in many tracks I'd swear that I have a tweeter problem to the point it's scary. However, because I've never hear it in any other material, I'm convinced it's just in the game. I think it might even be the crowd clapping that they add in causing the problem.


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