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Re: Hulk get mad, hulk smash Grand Master 500
Ken.C #268271 08/05/09 06:03 AM
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Well I have it going so/so now. I have to only turn it up to -50Db for avg. T.V volume. To watch a movie I have to crank it to -43dB.

I will have to check the HDMI cable from my 360 to see if it is not working right.

Still can't find a happy middle with the sub. But given time I will just have not had time to try all the settings.

Thanks for you help, I will be buying/upgrading my HTPC in a few days so we will see if that helps.

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rage96 #268272 08/05/09 06:11 AM
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 Originally Posted By: rage96

Thanks for you help, I will be buying/upgrading my HTPC in a few days so we will see if that helps.

Others opinions may vary but I avoid Realtck like the plague. All my HTPC audio problems have stemmed from their divers. Never had a problem with Sound Blaster. Just my 2 cents.


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rage96 #268274 08/05/09 06:28 AM
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You say "crank it to -43dB", I usually watch movies from -18dB to -12. I can barely hear my system at -50dB. That goes for all inputs: DVD and PS3 over HDMI, and TV from optical. I know difference receivers have different responses, but I thought the -dB scale was pretty consistent with -0dB being around reference.


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I see chris, I was not to sure. The few recivers I have used never went that low, but if it is o.k then I will not try to tweak anymore.

I will play more with the receiver in the morning, I know I will have more questions later on.



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rage96 #268289 08/05/09 12:29 PM
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Same here. I also usually watch movies at about -20db sometimes as loud as -8db.


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Those scales don't mean anything out of context. On my older Yamaha (currently used to power my M22s in my writing room), going to -40 is scary-loud as the 0 is at the end of the dial! My Onkyo (like Denon) makes it 0=dolby reference (exactly, actually). Old Yamaha at -40 is like new Onkyo at +8 (I measured when I switched receiver).


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It also depends on the media. I have a Denon that for most music I listen at -12db. Some titles need to be set down to -18db, and some up as high as -6db.

When using the XBox360 and watching HD-DVD a get an even greater variance in volume. Some titles work great at -10db, while some need to be pushed to reference (0db).

But, I would guess -43db is too low on any system.


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Wait, you're talking about a 7 dB difference between TV and movies? That's normal, dude!


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Ken.C #268297 08/05/09 02:34 PM
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When you ran Audyssey, it should have setup your speaker so when listening at 0 your average volume is 85 decibels (for DVD/Blu-Ray). So listening at -40 would be very quiet.

I'm assuming you have other issues like double bass and full range settings. Unless you post the results I can't be sure.

Also, remember the phrase "garbage in, garbage out". Depending on what you are playing through your HTPC, it may sound bad because of the source. The better the speakers, the worse compressed audio sounds.

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i put some music on and now my sub gives off no sound not even a rumble. I hate my HTPC

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