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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
ivorm #270470 08/24/09 05:50 PM
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I'll send you directions and photos to his place. I've been stalking him for some time now.


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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
MarkSJohnson #270476 08/24/09 07:10 PM
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 Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
I'll send you directions and photos to his place. I've been stalking him for some time now.


Wow! A referral from a chat board stalker. LOL


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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
ivorm #270482 08/24/09 08:28 PM
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 Originally Posted By: ivorm
Do you guys think that downloaded flac audio would be high enough quality to use for a listening CD?


Since flac is a lossless audio format, the quality coming out should equal the quality that went in. You don't lose any audio quality because of the compression.

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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
davew #270601 08/25/09 04:04 PM
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Of course the quality going in can often be crap to begin with depending on the producer and the bands desire to be loud verses clear.

Wilwom, I'll send you a private message with some further details in just a bit. I have to do a work item first. Mark has been hiding in my bushes ever since I posted too much info in this forum the last time. \:\)

It's no secret though that I live in South Rustico, Cymbria to be exact, but most people don't know where that is so I go with the better known, Rustico.


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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
Ken.C #270604 08/25/09 05:30 PM
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Ken and Adrian,

It's been so long, I can't remember! That used to be the M50 design, but it may have changed. I'll ask Ian.

In effect, Ken, what you say is also correct: the 2 1/2 way does use a different crossover arrangement for each woofer. It's just that on the second woofer of the M50, it's a mechanical/acoustical crossover, so it will carry some midrange content (no low-pass on the second woofer). The same arrangement is used on the M3's single woofer. It's allowed to mechanically roll off rather than using an electrical network. The M3 still has a crossover with a high-pass filter to keep low frequencies out of the tweeter. There just isn't a low-pass on the woofer.

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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
alan #270608 08/25/09 05:52 PM
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OK, now I'm going to have to stick my ear up against the woofers on my M50s and see if I can hear a difference.


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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
Ken.C #270609 08/25/09 06:00 PM
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Do you have the "Golden Ear", Ken?


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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
Ken.C #270610 08/25/09 06:02 PM
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If it's still a 2 1/2-way, you might be able to hear a bit more midrange/upper midrange content from the woofer with the mechanical/acoustical crossover.

By the way, an M50 was put into a double-blind test I was doing recently up at the plant. I don't have the rating sheet in front of me, but I remember writing down: "this is a very nice speaker. Very natural solo male and female vocals, but I wish it had a bit more detail on orchestral and choral works."

The other speaker in the comparison was a competitor's model that had so much detail, I called it "shrill".

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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
alan #270611 08/25/09 06:30 PM
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Hmm. Sounds about right. I'm still curious about the difference between the tis and the v2s.


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Re: Something equvilent to the M60's
ivorm #270612 08/25/09 06:38 PM
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 Originally Posted By: ivorm
Hi guys,

I' m looking into buying some Axiom speakers for my first setup. I've been looking at the M60's and maybe building from there to get a full 5.1 or 7.1. I figure I might look elsewhere for the sub as I feel I may get more for my buck but I don't know.

My real question is does anyone have an opinion of another set of mains I'd be able to hear in store to get a feel for what the M60's would be like? I've been to a few places around the city (Halifax) and we seem to have brands like Paradigm, klipsch, PSB, monitor, polk, mordaunt short and probably a few others. We also have FS and BB as well.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Ivor


I have M80’s. I have not heard M60’s, although I suspect they are similar. Having said that……….

The speaker that I think has the closest sound to the M80 is the Paradigm Studio 100. The 100’s are slightly more laid back than the 80’s. If you listen to the 100’s and like the way they sound, chances are pretty good that you’ll like the M60 or M80. The other speaker that sounds somewhat like the M80’s is the B&W 704. I don’t know if they still make them or not, but again, if you like the 704’s, you’ll probably like the M60 or M80.

Keep in mind that these are just my impressions. I have not ever heard any of these side by side, which is the only ‘real’ way to make an accurate comparison.

Have you asked Axiom of there is anyone in your area with Axioms that you can listen to? I bet there is.

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