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Re: Recommendation for bookshelfs for classical music
paula #272172 09/11/09 05:21 PM
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 Originally Posted By: paula
Just remember his own preference might not be your preference. There are many good quality bookshelf speakers out there and until you get to hear them in your own environment with your ears, you will never really know which you like better. I would second the idea of ordering up both speakers listen to both and send back the ones you like the least, at most it will cost you about an extra $20 to return the Axioms should you not choose them and as was mentioned Ascend offeres free return shipping.


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Re: Recommendation for bookshelfs for classical music
jakewash #272181 09/11/09 05:57 PM
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Perhaps Ascend has changed their policy or you were thinking of Aperion. Neither shipping from nor back to Ascend is included in the MSRP. They list a $20 flat rate for this speaker shipped to you and say the following in their return policy:

ASCEND 30-DAY GUARANTEE...

 Originally Posted By: Ascend

4. Items returned to us must be shipped pre-paid by the sender. Ascend Acoustics will not accept C.O.D. returns, nor will we be liable for any carrier charges associated with the return of any product. Shipping charges paid at the time of purchase will not be refunded.


I’m guessing it will be close to the same price, however, they also say this:

 Originally Posted By: Ascend

3. Items should be returned in the complete original packaging to ensure they will not be damaged in return transport. Any items returned in damaged condition will be subject to review before credit is issued. We recommend insuring all returned product with the carrier.


Axiom includes shipping to the customer as part of the MSRP. And estimates the return shipping for 2 bookshelf speakers at 30USD.

Also Axiom says this:

The Axiom In-Home Trial 30 day...

 Originally Posted By: Axiom

If Axiom loudspeakers do not surpass your highest expectations, send them back to us within 30 days and we will give you a refund. No questions asked. Please be sure to keep all original packaging for returning your loudspeakers. If you do not have original packaging, please contact us.



P.S. I stand corrected if Ascend is offering some sort of shipping special I missed on their site when I checked out the links from that forum last night.

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Re: Recommendation for bookshelfs for classical music
grunt #272184 09/11/09 06:07 PM
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I was in fact thinking of Aperion, nice catch.


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Re: Recommendation for bookshelfs for classical music
jakewash #272186 09/11/09 06:34 PM
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The idea of an in-home trial is great (by Axiom, Ascend, others), but I really would prefer not to send any speakers back and just buy and use them.

BTW I wrote to Ascend about my question in this thread two days ago, and no reply yet. I wrote to Axiom before that and Brent replied within 24 hours, recommending the M3 over the M2.

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Re: Recommendation for bookshelfs for classical mu
Adrian #272192 09/11/09 06:52 PM
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Bad name for a musical, though.

Re: Recommendation for bookshelfs for classical music
paula #272193 09/11/09 07:02 PM
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IMO no one bookshelf speaker in your price range from any good manufacturer is going to bomb or totally outclass the competition. It’s the fine details that will distinguish them and no one but you can decide what those are. Also your room itself will play a big roll I how you perceive these speakers performance.

Your real decision IMO is whether you want a neutral speaker like the M2 or CBM-170SE or something with a mid bass hump like the M3 and many others.

If you will be switching your music listening between these speakers and another system that extends lower I think a speaker with the mid bass hump it the way to go otherwise you will really notice the missing bass. If however, this is the only system you plan on listening to music on or your other system(s) don’t extend lower then I think you would not notice the missing bass as much and the more neutral speakers will sound better overall. Additionally, if you are very familiar with the music you plan on listening to you will also notice the missing bass more.

I really think your best bet is to pick one of each style and compare them directly. Check out any local shops to see if they have speakers in both styles (with and without a mid bass hump) and see which you prefer.


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Re: Recommendation for bookshelfs for classical music
grunt #272197 09/11/09 07:55 PM
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Listening to any one of the speakers mentioned on their own, IMO, would not allow for the subtlties to be exposed thus making your dilemma a moot point. I am quite sure you would be happy with any of the speakers that have been suggested.

As you have pointed out Axiom customer service is the best in the business as far as I can tell, another good reason to go with Axiom.

Another idea would be to order the M2's, as they are similar in characteristics to the ascend's, and if they are not to your liking upgrade to the M3's, you would only pay for the price difference - no shipping charges applied when upgrading during the 30 day trial. If you think the M3's are still not for you and found the M2s closer to your liking but still not quite right, you could again upgrade to the M22 as the final test of the bookshelf idea, after that you would then have to move to floorstanders, which for 2 channel listening is the only way to go, IMO.


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