Hats off to AXIOM for being very understanding and patient with a customers problems...
No doubt about it. Read through this an other threads and you will see I give them major props and kudos for being such a great company to work with. Heck they even sent me a brand new, $2300 dollar sub before recieving their other sub back... now that's some serious TRUST in their customers!!! I'll be an Axiom customer for life, they have truely awesome products, and an even more awesome business model. There's no way I could say a bad word about Axiom... however.......
My friend Shane came over yesterday and he brought with him his old JBL 10 inch downfiring subwoofer that he's had sitting out in his garage for the past few years since upgrading to a new sub (a JL Audio Fathom F112). First off let me say that he was completely blown away by the size of the EP800 when he got to my house... "Jesus, that thing is a monster", was the first thing that came out of his mouth when he entered the living room and saw the sub standing next to my M80. Tis a shame we couldn't play it so that he could have heard how accurate it is.
So anyhow he carried in his JBL, and we hooked it up to the DVD player via an RCA cord he brought with him. Started playing a few CD's, and the sub played just fine. It was a pretty crude sounding sub after having gotten used to the musicality of the EP800, there is an amazing difference between a $300 dollar sub and a $2300 dollar sub, let me tell you. So after playing it through the DVD player with his RCA cord, we hooked it up to the DVD player via my RCA cord. Played a few more CD's, and the sub still played along without a hitch. Then we tried hooking it up to the Denon with his RCA cord... I started to play some music off the computer (which is what I listen to 90% of the time), and once again the JBL banged out the notes as it was supposed to. Ok, so with one last ditch effort to see if my system had some sort of flaw with it, I hooked his sub up to the Denon using my RCA cord, and plugged his sub into the same outlet the EP800 was plugged into when it fizzled out... nothing. Only I don't mean nothing came out of it, I mean nothing I had expected happened. I was truely convinced that somewhere in my equipment there was something going on causing the problems with the EP800's. But we played his little JBL for over 3 hours hooked up exactly like I had the Axiom subs hooked up, and nothing out of the ordinary took place. We played movies, TONS of music from both the computer and the DVD player, I even turned the Denon up all the way to +12 about half way through the test (was only running it at +6 with the Axiom) and nothing could break it. Mind you like I said it didn't sound one tenth as good as the EP800 did when the EP800 worked, but the test was to see if it was my equipment was shorting out the Axiom subs, it wasn't a sound-off.
After 3 hours Shane got brave and said, "want me to go get my JL"? I was scared, even though nothing had happened to his JBL, I think he said he paid roughly what the EP800 is worth for his Fathom. And I was terrified that if it did suddenly act up and blow his JL sub up, I wouldn't know what to do! But he assured me that he had no fear in the matter, plus I think he was really wanting to show off his toy! lol
So 30 minutes later he was back with the Fathom. First off let me just say that this little (well it isn't tiny or anything, but sitting next to the EP800 absolutely dwarfed it!!!) JL Audio subwoofer is one fine looking piece of equipment. I don't think I've seen a better put together audio product in all my days. It is definately first class, top shelf stuff. So with me sweating bullets he hooks up his new subwoofer and turns on the music. To my relief there was no smoke, no popping, no blown fuses or anything scary like that. It played just as surely as the JBL did. I have to say that to my memory, the EP800 was just as accurate as the Fathom was... I wished so bad that it could have worked so that we could have tested them head to head, but just relying on my memories, I didn't think the JL sub embarrassed the Axiom as far as musical reproduction went what-so-ever!!! But then we put a movie in... and then the Fathom shined, that little sucker can MOVE SOME GODDAMNED AIR!!!! It definately impressed me from the very start when we put in 'Finding Nemo' and played the aquarium scene... holy crap I thought my TV was going to fall off of the wall!!! It was loud alright, overpowering even... that's when I remembered the Denon was set at +12!!! I lowered it down to +4 and it was much more integrated from then on. Still loud, but at least I could hear my M80's as well as the bass after that! lol
So in all we played the JBL for about 3 hours and the JL Audio Fathom F112 for about 45 minutes to an hour, and neither skipped a beat through out the entire test. I don't know how to feel about that? I think I was actually hoping that the JBL would have blown up or something so that at least I would finally know forsure what the problem was. Now I'm more confused than ever. It's hard for me to grasp that I could really have this bad of luck with as many different parts and pieces as Axiom has sent me with this EP800. The odds are staggeringly against the possibility that there could be that many failures as I've experienced with all this. I don't know how to explain it? I'm completely at a loss right now. All I know is that I think I've had enough of this roller coaster ride. Every time I get a new piece in my hopes have been sky high that it would all be solved. But each time I've been let down, and nothing has worked. So I think I'm going to throw in the towel in my efforts to solve this problem I'm having. I guess I'll try a new direction, and see where it leads me.
One thing I have to mention... Shane was completely and utterly FLOORED at the rest of my Axiom system! He's running some Klipsch tower speakers and I'm not sure what else in his HT, and he said he never knew movies could sound that freaking good in a 'HOME THEATER'!!! I've never watched a movie at his house, so I can't really comment on the difference, but I could sure tell he became an instant fan! He started asking me tons of questions about Axiom... how much they cost, where he could buy them, different models they made, if they made TV's or Blu-ray players, yada yada yada... I have no doubt in my mind at all that his system is going to get upgraded in the near future, he simply couldn't believe how affordable the M80's and the other speakers were. He said he'd never even heard of Axiom before. It was an eye opening experience for him to hear a well tuned 5.1 channel system playing a well recorded movie. I think I could see in him what SRoode must have seen in me when I went over to his house and experienced his Axiom set-up way back in... what, March??? Wow, how time flies!
I just wish my EP800 could have played as well as Steve's did!