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Re: M60 vs M80
CatBrat #278827 11/12/09 02:31 PM
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If you happen to hit a point where they have none in stock, it could take one or two days, but that's rare. I would call them if I were you to make sure they received the order and that they can send you emails (it happened in the past that the ISP provider was bloking the emails).

Additional: They ship between 2 and 3 o'clock in the PM easten-time. If you ordered past 10-12 o'clock, it may have skipped a day entirely.

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Re: M60 vs M80
EFalardeau #278829 11/12/09 03:04 PM
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I called and was told they would ship today.

Re: M60 vs M80
CatBrat #278833 11/12/09 04:01 PM
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Good choice with the M22's and subwoofer, I've been enjoying mine for about a month now. Amazingly, they just keep sounding better the longer I listen to them. I have a dedicated HT room that is almost exactly the same size as yours (1100 cubic feet). I'm running the M22v2's up front along with the VP150 for center, QS4 surrounds, and EP350 sub. The M22's can play to crazy high levels with no distortion (I actually left the room last night with my ears ringing \:\) ). I'm driving them with a Denon AVR-1910 (little brother to the 2310) and have had no complaints whatsoever. Sound quality is top notch!

Both JC and Brent at Axiom suggested that I upgrade from the VP100 to the VP150...and I would suggest the same for you when the time comes around to purchase a center. I couldn't be happier with their recommendation. Movie dialogue is very clear, strong and natural...it never is drown out by the other speakers. Vocals from music played in surround mode are also excellent.

Enjoy those speakers...if you can survive the wait! My shipment got hung up in customs for an extra 4 days...I thought I was going to die!

Re: M60 vs M80
BWeasner #278836 11/12/09 04:21 PM
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LOL. Yeah I know the feeling. Looks like I probably won't see mine until Monday, since I'm having it delivered to where I work at. UPS just dumps stuff in front of my garage door and just leaves it there. So I feel safer having it delivered to work. (I know it's Fedex)

Besides the M22, I want the VP150, EP350, and 2 QS8's. I'm currently looking for a decent receiver with a lot of sound control/eq options. Next week, I should have around $900 to blow on one. I am a little concerned about the sound from the VP150/100 because of some reviews I've read elsewhere. But since I'm somewhat picky, a lot of sound options in the receiver would be best for me.

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Re: M60 vs M80
CatBrat #278841 11/12/09 04:37 PM
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I don't know which implementations of Audyssey are installed on those models (and I'm just too lazy to look it up at the moment). I have read many observations that the MultiEQ XT is "better" than the plain 'ol "MultiEQ". YMMV.


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Re: M60 vs M80
CatBrat #278843 11/12/09 04:48 PM
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Most of us that have the VP series speakers have never had problems with them. Many of the reviews are from a very close listening range on the VP150, which it was never meant for and the VP100 would have been a better choice. I own both and love each one.

As with any speaker, positioning can play a very large roll in what we hear and I think the poor reviews are from bad positioning of the speaker. I am sure you will find a position for yours that works best in your room. The few reviews that take measurements and complain about the combing effect, Alan has posted that this is a measureable issue but is not an audible problem and I would have to agree.


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Re: M60 vs M80
jakewash #278852 11/12/09 05:25 PM
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The Onkyo has dynamic EQ and the Denon has MultEQ. Thanks, because that led me to this site: http://www.audyssey.com/ where I can study it further.

I used to have the following system: Bose 901 speakers, Bose 250 wpc power amp, Soundcraftsmen pre-amp w/10 band per channel eq., Techniques turntable, Kenwood tuner. So I'm used to having a manually controlled equalizer. Not sure about the auto adjusting technology.

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CatBrat #278857 11/12/09 06:07 PM
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I'm of the opinion that if a speaker needs that much equalizing, it's probably not a good speaker. But I may just be oversimplifying things.


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Re: M60 vs M80
Ken.C #278863 11/12/09 07:03 PM
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Cat, MultEQ is what they both have, Dynamic EQ is an additional feature on top of MultEQ that some models offer. Dynamic Volume is another. Onkyo also had MultEQ.


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Re: M60 vs M80
SirQuack #278875 11/12/09 07:54 PM
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I agree with the VP150/M22 setup, and QS8's... I pretty much have the exact same setup, run with the 2310. I am picky when it comes to centers as I cannot stand not being able to hear dialogue clearly. I sit about 14' back from the center channel and it sounds great to me.

I too am not sold on Audyssey, but I think I'll run it here shortly and fine tune with the good 'ol SPL meter. One thing I don't want for sure is the dynamic EQ or especially dynamic compression turned on, which it sometimes does.

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