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Advancing display technology
#27998 12/17/03 04:51 PM
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Here is an article on Intel's upcoming announcment of production of LCoS display chips that could see 50" HDTV displays for sale for $1000 by next Christmas. You will have to register with the New York Times(free) to be able to read it. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/17/technology/17chip.html?th.


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#27999 12/17/03 04:53 PM
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Just let me know when the display quality becomes acceptable. I've never actually seen the things, but I'd really like a (relatively) thin screen. Everyone keeps saying that the tech's not there yet.

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#28000 12/17/03 05:01 PM
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LCoS has (in all the reviews I've read) been leaps and bounds better than LCD, plasma, and even DLP. The problem has been with QC and price. Let's hope Intel's new chips can help that.



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#28001 12/17/03 05:06 PM
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Yup. And if the 50" ones are $1000, then the 37" ones should be around $500-700 (hopefully).


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#28002 12/17/03 05:16 PM
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We're talking about compact light weight rear projection tv's here. The reviews I read on the new Philips LCoS sets were excellent. I saw one last week and it didn't quite live up to my expectations in comparison to the newest Samsung DLP (HLN467W)set which was excellent. You never know how well adjusted the sets are that displayed in most of the stores, often not very well. The 46" Samy set had a great picture compared to everything else in the store with only a 1/2" bezel around the screen and picture disappeared behind the bezel. It weighs about 70 lbs. and is 16" deep. The only problem was the price: $3800. Add an HDTV tuner and drop the price to $1000 I'd jump. It looks like that's where we'll be in the next two years. Even then I think the quality improvements will be steady for the next five years or so. I just couldn't bring myself to spend that kind of money today knowing in a year or so knowing better sets will be 1/3 or less today's prices.


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#28003 12/17/03 05:46 PM
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I'm definately holding out. I almost "settled" and was looking at purchasing a 57" +/- CRT RPTV in the $1500-2000 range. But as you all know, they're HUGE. Hopefully that same money will get me a bigger screen, and smaller set. I also don't like buying a "HD" tv that can't display 1920x1080. HD is 1920x1080. It almost seems criminal that the makers are allowed to call things HD that aren't.

OK...it's settled. I'm holding out for 60+ inches of 1920x1080 resolution. (and I want to pay no more than $2500) What are your predictions? How long before that's a reality. I'm guessing 2 years.

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#28004 12/17/03 06:15 PM
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1 1/2 years with less bugs in 2-3 years.


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#28005 12/17/03 07:05 PM
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one of the problems with waiting on advances, is that when that display has come to your price point, your other gear may be outdated too. then you'll be looking for another cd player?? or maybe another avr. it's like computers, cutting edge today, and yesterday's news tomorrow.

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#28006 12/17/03 07:35 PM
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Whoops. Dur. I get all these TV techs mixed up.


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#28007 12/17/03 07:38 PM
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yeah....and in 2 or 3 years you will want what costs $3500 instead of what you can get for $2500.

spiff...you know it is an endless cycle!

I just got a new rack/stand that is waiting for a new TV next year!
http://www.thechangs.us/after.JPG

got to do something about the cable mess....

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#28008 12/17/03 07:46 PM
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Wow...curtis that looks a lot nicer! Sound better too?

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#28009 12/17/03 08:03 PM
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thanks spiff.....

Getting the bookshelfs out, and getting the speakers on to stands made a bigger difference than I thought it would....more than subtle.

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#28010 12/17/03 08:10 PM
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Sweet speaker stands! That's really nice looking.


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#28011 12/17/03 08:46 PM
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you wife must be a doll, because of wires on the floors etc in our family room, about a year ago, we purchased a plasma, an ent ctr, and best of all an axiom set up. all she asked was that the wires be hidden.
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#28012 12/17/03 09:43 PM
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hehehehehe....I'm divorced so I can do whatever I want. Although I really want to hide the wires. What did you do?

The stands were built by Brian Bunge of http://www.rutledgeaudiodesign.com

I needed a custom height to clear the sofa...31". They weigh around 25lbs each...and each also has about 25lbs of sand in it as well. The things are heavy and solid. I chose the maple veneer to match the light colored wood I have going on. The rack is actually made out of pine. Got really lucky it matches so well.

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#28013 12/17/03 09:55 PM
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played around with placement, then drilled holes thru the floor. only wires are for the fronts which i'm still fussin' with and haven't done the sub cable yet. hey it's only been a year.
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#28014 12/18/03 02:09 AM
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Thought you might find this interesting:

By Jon Iverson

November 17, 2003 — Liquid Crystal on Silicon or LCOS technology is clearly hot in the HDTV market. MicroDisplay Corporation announced last week that it has introduced a single panel 1920 x 1080 LCOS microdisplay with resolution of two million pixels. The company says the new chip is designed for front and rear projection televisions.

Microdisplay says the new "E-HD" LCOS imaging chip is a mere 21mm (0.82") measured diagonally and claims that it is the smallest single panel LCOS with high definition resolution on the market. Aimed at the 40" and larger rear projection television market, the company says that the LCOS display chipset comes complete with a single chip controller IC and a full programming graphical user interface for speedy evaluation and design.

According to Insight Media analyst Chris Chinnock, the E-HD chip set "will help accelerate the move to 1080p based systems. This is where LCOS will probably find its best competitive advantage, and the small device size of E-HD and the single-panel architecture, should enable very cost competitive products to reach the market in 2004." Chinnock also suggests that if pricing for a 1080p LCOS-RPTV can fall below the $2000 price point within a year after introduction, "it will have a major impact on the market."

MicroDisplay's Sandeep Gupta adds "We have been working with LCOS technology for several years, and the E-HD chipset gives system builders worldwide a powerful display chip and controller chip with resolutions of 1080p, delivering television images that are as sharp and crisp as photographs. Our early customers and partners have reviewed the chipset over the past five months, and the early engine designs we are starting to see from them are realizing the high efficiency and display quality achievable with a fast single-panel LCOS."




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