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HK525 vs Yamaha1400
#28468 12/21/03 06:13 PM
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Can anyone offer advice/info on these two receivers? I'm looking for a new receiver to go with my new M60's and have narrowed it down to these two.

I had originally decided to go with the 525 because of the rich feature set and all the positive reviews I have read about it from owners, but there is one feature on the Yamaha that intrigues me. It is the automatic acoustic optimization feature (YPAO?) that uses a special microphone hooked to the amp to automatically "optimize" speaker output based on the physical position you place the microphone at.

Has anyone used or heard about this Yamaha feature. Is it significant enough to change my initial tendency to go with the HK525?

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#28469 12/21/03 06:41 PM
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are you using this for home theater or stereo listening...

i just ask because this is the stereo forum.

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#28470 12/21/03 06:47 PM
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I am more interested in their stereo qualities. I guess the feature I was asking about does pertain to HT listening. Furthermore, I just found out that the HK525 also has the same HT optimization feature using a mic in the remote control. So sorry about the rambling.

Let me rephrase. How do these two receivers compare for listening to music?

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#28471 12/21/03 07:06 PM
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No, the H/K does not have the same feature. The YPAO will equalize the sound as well as setting levels, so the YPAO is a better feature than the H/K's EzSet. Also, EzSet doesn't set calibrate the sub. That said, I've got an H/K 525, and I really like it. Both receivers should have the same sound quality for music if you disregard the YPAO.


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#28472 12/21/03 07:18 PM
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I also have a 525, and love it. I didn't even bother with the EZset, as I prefer manuel set up.

My old receiver is a Yamaha RX-V2090, loved that one, too.

Yamaha's are definitely brighter, but this is not a bad thing(it is not ear piercing highs). They are just two different approaches to sound reproduction. Listen to both, buyt he one you like.

My 525 was $500 shipped from Harman. I won one of their eBay auctions, it is a refurb, but I have had no problems.


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#28473 12/21/03 09:27 PM
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ok i guess what i wanted to ask is are you using them solely for stereo. or for stereo and HT. as in with 5 speakers etc.

If you were using them JUST for 2 speakers id probbly dump a reciever and look at an integrated amp or if you insisted on a reciever, a stereo reciever.

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#28474 12/21/03 10:46 PM
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If there is any chance you'll want HT in the future though, then get a receiver that supports it now.

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#28475 12/22/03 12:08 AM
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Oh yeah, I definitely will want the ability to do HT in the future, even though I only have the two mains and a center speaker at this point. I just decided to upgrade the receiver in my system first. Also, one of the reasons I liked these two systems is that they both have preouts if I wanted to someday transition to a separate component system. In this case, I could start off with the amplifier, and not have to buy all separate components at once. At this point, I am auditioning these two units for their performance with music more than HT

To me it looks like the Yamaha has more component input flexibility, more features, and a more powerful remote with learning capability. I also like its aesthetic design better.

But there's just something about the HK that makes me wonder if I shouldn't get it. I can't help being swayed by the number of people who own one and seem to love them. I can't really find any Yamaha owners to specificly ask about the 1400.

And worst of all, I can't find a dealer with both models to listen to them side by side!

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#28476 12/22/03 01:29 AM
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one thing to keep in mind is the triple bass management feature of the HK. You can set different crossover points for mains, center, and surrounds. I think this would a very nice to have for Axiom owners since the -+3db points of the QS surrounds and VP centers are quite higher than the mains.

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Good point. I'd forgotten about that. What about the H/K 630? Anyone checked that out? Does it have a YPAO/MCACC equivalent?


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