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I can't escape tubes, music comes to life with them.


Enjoy the glow!!!

Redo <<== What he said...

Ming Das - I looked at them but then got some Cayins - remember an A/B Test with Marantz and C/A - totally kicked butt.

Not for everyone tho.

Queue the amps-don't-matter club in 5...4...3...2...

..1. Hi guys!

Yeah, so just yesterday my neighbor got a tube amp so awesome that all the LPs I buried in my back yard a few years back rose from the dead.

Undead music is fantastic!

Don't talk about the undead, you're gonna raise the Bar!

The bar only seems raised, when you're passed out on the floor.

Somewhere, JohnK senses a disturbance in the Force ...

You mispelled "farce".

Least tubes give you some light to read the liner notes by... and a nice crackling dry heat.

Bren R.

Pmbuko,

Having never owned a turntable until about a year ago, I can definitely say that one of the fantastic things about having one is all the Vinyl sitting around that you simply can't get on CD.

It's absolutely Awwesommme how people start handing over their old vinyl -if it's in good nick, that is..

The people that rushed to replace their lp collection with cds made a huge mistake, That is, if you had a decent collection.

My 3000+ lp collection is worth so much now. Most of my records are priced on the used market at $40.00 and up (the highest being about $300.00). Vinyl lps are an excellent (albeit a labor of love) investment.

And hold on to older cds as well. A lot of earlier, out of print releases are now fetching quite a bit $ too.

Of course, if you have mainstream/crappy tastes, your collection may be less desirable to collectors...

Enjoy The Tubes !!

This is what came to mind when I first saw this post.

I got rid of most of mine, but kept about 30/35 I thought were to obscure to ever go to CD. Mostly Jazz (and thought I'd always have a turntable, that was a while ago!) I'll have to dig them out and see what they were. (I've hauled them around for years)

White punks on dope!!! Yay the Tubes.

Hey Eno, I have all your albums!

Dig 'em out and go here: http://www.gemm.com/ and check out how much they are worth. If they are truly obscure (and in good enough condition), you may have some valuable stuff in your possession.

Hope they are in good shape, it was the times but the peyote and acid in the eyes was all in motion, but even with that I tried really hard to keep myself and guest to treat my vinyl well,

And thanks for the link

Trying to remember what speakers I had then, think they were Cerwin Vegas, then moved to Advents

Lol, yeah. We used to have "trip nights" in the late 80's where we auditioned new releases under the influence of trendy chemical amusement aids and light/laser shows. Good times.

And remember, all old "heads" know the best way to clean and roll your weed is on an open gatefold record sleeve. Preferably Yes' Tales Of Topographic Oceans.

Although nowadays, seedy herb is as rare as obscure jazz lps around these parts...

I would not know how to score or well would I care too

Well there are are a few moments I'd like to recall

Well a lid was 4 fingers

Redo, an amplifier isn't a musical instrument. All that it does to make the music "come to life" is to increase the input voltage about 25-30 times so that it's loud enough to hear. All amplifiers do this. One which would make the sound different, rather than amplifying transparently, would either be incompetently designed or damaged. A basic principle of audio technology, well-summarized by the Audio Critic, is that "Electronic Signal Paths Do Not Have a Personality!".

Hit the deck!

I thought amps doubled the output at 4ohm, yet there are some rated 200W @ 8ohm and 300W @ 4ohm. Why is that? If there is no 4ohm spec from the manufacturer then how does one determine the output at 4ohms?

How can the A1400-8 output the same (all channels driven) 200W at all impedances?

Is there a way or formula to determine the one,two, or three channel driven output based soley on the all channels driven rating? For example, if a 5 channel amp is rated 200W all channels driven then what would be a reasonable estimate for 1,2,and 3 channels driven?

Tubes are as much of a musical instrument as a thick overdriven electrical guitar. Transparency is not the name of the game in my book, musicality is, and I'll take tube distortion and all the fun things that tubes bring to the table.

Speakers, room size shape and treatment, they come first by a mile. But there are differences to be had throughout the entire chain (except cables :p, get a competent cable and call it a day).

I thought for sure JohnK would offer excellent advice on rolling....

I can roll a sea kayak. Well, most times, anyway. I have pretty much perfected the half-roll though.

There is no magic 'formula' unless you know exactly how the amp structure is made up. Most amps will only drive one channel to it's max output 200W @ 8ohm for example and that channel would then be able to have a 50% increase in power when a drop to 4 ohms is introduced giving you 300W, this is about as close to a formula as you will get. The A1400 is able to deliver no matter what resistance due to it's design. It is able to feed any amount of power required to a single channel upto it's max output of ~1400W if need be.

And that's how Jakewash ended up looking like a pale, bony zombie.