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#298578 - 03/26/10 03:51 AM Axiom M60 vs Focal 714 vs PSB Image T5 vs BW 684
Lobo Offline
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Registered: 03/21/10
Posts: 12
Loc: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Let me start by saying that I’m not a sound engineer. I’m a simple guy who happens to be interested in home audio. I’m new to this forum and would like to share my experience with the time I’ve spent researching for the right speakers for my new Marantz SR5004 receiver. Hopefully, my experience would help those like me who first stumbled onto this forum to ease the process in making a final decision.

Over the past 3 months I’ve been comparing tower speakers in the $1000 CDN price range. I’ve read up on as many reviews online and read through as much information I could comprehend in understanding speaker specification and lingo. I’ve read through countless articles in my attempt to articulate and evaluate my short list of speaker towers.

I have auditioned the following speakers at my local retail store: Focal 714, B&W 684, PSB Image T5. I’ve also been fortunate to have a member of this forum open his home for me to audition the Axiom M60V2.

To set the stage, I have no control over each speaker set up as each speaker was auditioned at different locations. I simply had my set of CD’s on hand, my ears, a clear mind, my pen, and my trusty moleskine notebook. I spent about an hour listening to each brand of speaker. My CD list included: (1) Eric Clapton - Unplugged ; (2) Puccini - Turandot (Decca Record); (3) Red Hot Chilli Peppers - Jupiter; (4) Eric Clapton - Slowhand (SACD); (5) Diana Krall - When I Look In Your Eyes; (6) Beethoven - Symphony No.9 (Karajan Gold Recording)

Focal 714: $1200 CDN a pair
Where’s the bass? It appeared that I was missing the bottom half of the bass sound. With that initial thought in my mind it was difficult for me go beyond how “thin” these speakers presented itself. The speakers sounded “forward” in that the singers voice sounded too close to me. I also sensed that I did not appreciate how “bright” it sounded. My final comment to this speaker was that it’s over all appearance was forward thinking in that it tried to get away from making it look like a simple vertical box by adding other geometric shape to mask it’s vertical appearance.

B&W 684: $1000 CDN a pair
I felt that his had a better job of sounding “complete”. The bass was round and I could appreciate the bass line in the CD’s I plugged in. Listening to my collection through this speaker made me first appreciate a good vs. bad recording. This was also the first instance where I could hear detail in the high’s from which I have never heard before in my CD collection. However despite the positive thoughts I was writing on my notebook, I could not get away from the fact that as the tracks played on it was becoming more and more difficult for me to listen. I rationalized that this was due to B&W’s tweeter was too “harsh” for my liking, this was what the retailer was selling me on and it was the one aspect that I had difficulty appreciating. The overall appearance was comparable to fashion-glossy-magazine. Nice clean lines, very pleasing to look at from a minimalist point of view.

PSB Image T5: $1100 CDN a pair
This was a disappointment to begin with; the first comment I wrote down was “$300” for a piece of equipment valued at $1000 retail. To me the sound was “recessed”, in that it truly sounded like it someone was speaking from inside a box. I noted “sibilance” on my notebook. I also commented on how the sound felt really “dry” and “lifeless”. It is obvious that this speaker was at the bottom of my list. By this time, I’ve heard enough speakers and I really had nothing positive to write in comparison to the other brands already auditioned. For the overall initial appearance I simply wrote “ok”. Perhaps I was blinded by my initial comments on it’s sound to even give it’s appearance a once over.

Axiom Audio M60V2: $915 CDN a pair
The audition started on a good note. My first word on my notes was “presence” I honestly could not believe how the sound felt three dimensional. I also noted that I was listening to these speakers in someone’s home and not a professional studio. The bass line was “fat” and had a complete “rounded” punch. I also noticed in the classical recordings i could distinguish male and female voices in better clarity. For my thoughts on the value of sound i wrote “$2000”. The last comment I wrote was that the room felt bigger when I closed my eyes. The overall appearance was as advertised and as the owner pointed despite this set being purchased from the outlet store we both could not find any noticeable blemishes. He did admit that one of the grills had a slight bulge onto the speaker but wasn’t sure if this was considered a defect as he could barely notice it when installed. I noted that “it’s not sexy” and it’s most likely what a preconceived vision of a tower speaker should look like.

In addition to these speakers I’ve also had the privilege of auditioning other models / brands in a different price range to get a better appreciation of what good sound is suppose to sound like. These speakers include: PSB Imagine T ($2400 / pair) , Focal 826 ($3000 / pair), B&W 800 Diamond ($24,000 / pair).

My final selection: Axiom Audio M60V2. Over all I weighed my decision on what I wanted out of my speakers; I wanted the best possible sound for $1000, I wanted to appreciate bass lines from my favorite bass players, I wanted all the “transparency” i could afford in a speaker, and lastly I wanted a set of speakers from a manufacturer I could trust.

*Pls. “Delivery Fairy God Mother” - get my speakers to my door sooner then expected...*
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#298579 - 03/26/10 03:56 AM Re: Axiom M60 vs Focal 714 vs PSB Image T5 vs BW 684 [Re: Lobo]
CV Offline
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Registered: 07/20/06
Posts: 11056
Loc: Richland, WA, USA
Welcome to the board. Nice first post. That was probably more helpful than any post I've ever made here. Good luck on the wait.
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#298582 - 03/26/10 04:36 AM Re: Axiom M60 vs Focal 714 vs PSB Image T5 vs BW 684 [Re: CV]
grunt Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 3569
Loc: Nirvana
Thanks for your post. I like your rating method of assigning a dollar value to the speakers it gives a tangible assessment to rate the relative values of them.

I like “detailed” speakers so I also auditioned some different B&W and Focal speakers from you in the same room as the M80s. I actually liked both of them a little better than the M80s, however, not nearly better enough to justify the price difference. Looking like a trustworthy company also played a major role in my selecting Axiom as the ID brand to try out.

I wish you an early delivery.
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#298588 - 03/26/10 05:41 AM Re: Axiom M60 vs Focal 714 vs PSB Image T5 vs BW 684 [Re: Lobo]
fredk Offline
axiomite

Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 6960
Loc: Canada
Excellent first post Lobo!! I have heard others who's opinions I trust criticize the B&W 600 line. You are a brave man listening to the 800D though. I have avoided the temptation because I would probably lust after them for the rest of my life.

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I wanted all the “transparency” i could afford in a speaker

I think that's a great description of the Axiom line.
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#298591 - 03/26/10 06:56 AM Re: Axiom M60 vs Focal 714 vs PSB Image T5 vs BW 684 [Re: fredk]
SirQuack Offline
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Registered: 01/29/04
Posts: 13311
Loc: Iowa
Great review, looking forward to your feedback once you get some Axioms in your home.
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#298594 - 03/26/10 07:52 AM Re: Axiom M60 vs Focal 714 vs PSB Image T5 vs BW 684 [Re: SirQuack]
terzaghi Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 04/04/07
Posts: 4840
Loc: Tulsa, Oklahoma
I agree, very good first post!
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#298599 - 03/26/10 09:12 AM Re: Axiom M60 vs Focal 714 vs PSB Image T5 vs BW 684 [Re: terzaghi]
MarkSJohnson Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 09/27/04
Posts: 10675
Loc: Central NH
Awesome, Lobo...and welcome to the forum. I'm glad your journey left you satisfied, no matter what your choice.

I do have to wonder, though, how it all might have worked out differently if you used a cowhide-covered notebook instead of a moleskin notebook.

I guess I should let it go, 'cuz it's too early in our relationship for deep philosophical discussions.
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#298601 - 03/26/10 09:22 AM Re: Axiom M60 vs Focal 714 vs PSB Image T5 vs BW 684 [Re: Lobo]
pmbuko Offline
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Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16224
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
Thanks for sharing your opinions, and welcome!
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#298603 - 03/26/10 09:33 AM Re: Axiom M60 vs Focal 714 vs PSB Image T5 vs BW 684 [Re: pmbuko]
Adrian Offline
axiomite

Registered: 12/27/08
Posts: 6557
Loc: It's all about the location.
Welcome Lobo, very good post. Surprised you didn't also audition some Paradigms in there too, given the type of speaker it looks like you're after. Enjoy the M60s!
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#298611 - 03/26/10 10:17 AM Re: Axiom M60 vs Focal 714 vs PSB Image T5 vs BW 684 [Re: Adrian]
Ken.C Offline
shareholder in the making

Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17695
Loc: NoVA
Excellent post. Glad to hear that you found speaker you liked, even happier to hear that they're Axioms! (See another thread re: validating ones own choices...)
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