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Re: Axiom Audio Releases On-wall Speakers
BlueJays1 #301541 04/12/10 05:41 PM
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Yeah, I too would love some wall maount m22's for my bedroom.


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peterbell #301598 04/12/10 11:49 PM
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Bookshelf, On-Wall/In-Wall, In-Wall, On-Wall and In-Cabinet. I've read several 'professional' reviews and many 'amateur' reviews of the Bookshelf M22, but nothing solid on any of the others - either as stand-alone tests or as a comparison to the Bookshelves. Can anyone point me to tests like that? With so many variations some kind of comparison would be helpful.


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donlboy #301610 04/13/10 01:10 AM
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Many of the models are quite new, particularly the on-wall and in-wall ones. I have heard the on-walls and the bookshelf models, but at nowhere near the same time, nor the same position/room. Still, I suspect the bookshelves, being freestanding, have better bass. The imaging from the on-walls is very, very good, though.


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terzaghi #301624 04/13/10 03:38 AM
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Now that these speakers have been released, I'd like to share some pictures I took of the on-wall M22s I evaluated. The speakers themselves are identical to the final version, but the bracket has undergone some refinements (which is why I'm not including any up-close pictures of the old version.)

The gallery includes some comparison shots to the bookshelf M22s. You'll notice I did not fish the wires through the wall, which I would go through the trouble to do in a permanent install location.

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pmbuko #301661 04/13/10 09:22 AM
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Soooooooooo how do the on walls compare to the bookshelf? Are they similar enough in sound quality that most would not notice a difference or is there enough of a drop in low end performance that it is noticeable and the onwalls MUST have a sub to sound as warm as the standard bookshelf? Hmmmmm, Hmmmmm, we're waiting.....


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jakewash #301673 04/13/10 01:34 PM
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I'm also getting a pair of on-wall M22's today. I'm going to use some older speaker wire so I can a/b test them. I'm also one that believes that some speaker break in time is necessary first. Not much, just a couple of days of normal use.

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jakewash #301675 04/13/10 01:53 PM
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Jay,

My bookshelf M22s are about 7 years old. Besides the cabinet dimensions, they differ from the on-wall M22s in the tweeter and crossover. I really like the new tweeter. The top end of the on-wall sound is a definite improvement over my bookshelf M22s. The range where the bookshelf beats the on walls are in the lower midrange and bass, but the midrange differences depend on the material I'm listening to.

Like Ken mentioned elsewhere, the on-wall M22s image just as well as the bookshelves. I think they may even have better dispersion than the bookshelves -- again, owing to the newer tweeter. If I were comparing a new bookshelf to the on-wall, I'm pretty sure I'd pick the bookshelf. My wife, on the other hand, would pick the on-walls.

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pmbuko #301679 04/13/10 02:21 PM
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I think I would agree with your wife, at least for now. I'm trying to improve the looks of my living room and the on-walls are going to go a lot further in that department than the bookshelves currently do. They don't look bad, but the don't look like they belong there either.

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So Ian's been at it again and changed out parts. Sounds like the new tweeter is a better version. I wonder if we old timers can put them into our original Ti's with similar results.


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jakewash #301698 04/13/10 03:51 PM
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Not from what he's told us. Crossovers get/got? changed, too.


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