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#311227 - 06/22/10 08:22 PM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: fredk]
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 Originally Posted By: fredk
I must say, I'm surprised at the number of people that have jumped on this speaker. I wouldn't have thought many would have room for it.

Here's a question. Given that the center channel is mainly for dialog, how low does the speaker really have to go? A quick search shows that the lowest fundamental in the male voice is around 85 Hz, do you really need a speaker that goes down to 36 Hz?


There's way more coming out of the centre speaker than just dialog. Disconnect all other speakers and play material with just the centre and you might be surprised at how much content there is aside from the dialog.

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#311228 - 06/22/10 08:22 PM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: Ken.C]
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Oh, I was speaking about those of us who have the older style and ordered the vp180 without knowing about the changes. I actually found out about the new drivers after mine had shipped.


Edited by kmcalvano (06/22/10 08:23 PM)
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#311229 - 06/22/10 08:23 PM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: Ken.C]
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I don't KNOW. Sometimes, there is a perception that Axiom staff closely monitor these forums and respond HERE to customer service questions. I do not believe that is the case. The only/best way for you to get solid information is to call Axiom directly.
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#311230 - 06/22/10 08:24 PM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: tomtuttle]
kmcalvano Offline
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mkay, mkay, I'll call:D
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#311232 - 06/22/10 08:47 PM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: kmcalvano]
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 Originally Posted By: kmcalvano
I know I should be patient, but are there any updates for the old/new driver situation? I'm really hoping that Axiom will allow us an upgrade to the new ones, I'm really starting to like the looks of them, especially in the light maple;)

I don't think the old to new driver is as simple as a swap. It is not just a dust cap color change. You would also need to change the crossover.
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#311233 - 06/22/10 08:50 PM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: ]
fredk Offline
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 Originally Posted By: htnut
There's way more coming out of the centre speaker than just dialog. Disconnect all other speakers and play material with just the centre and you might be surprised at how much content there is aside from the dialog.

I'm going to have to give that a try.

I once got my mains to produce only the surround material. That was quite interesting.
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#311234 - 06/22/10 09:00 PM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: fredk]
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Hey fred, I wouldn't think you have to swap the x-over if the drivers have the same specs. The first time I called, I believe they told me that the drivers were the same minus the dust cap.

I just got off the phone with Brent and he told me that he would speak with Ian tomorrow and get back with me, FYI


Edited by kmcalvano (06/22/10 09:01 PM)
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#311235 - 06/22/10 09:00 PM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: fredk]
SRoode Offline
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 Originally Posted By: fredk
 Originally Posted By: kmcalvano
I know I should be patient, but are there any updates for the old/new driver situation? I'm really hoping that Axiom will allow us an upgrade to the new ones, I'm really starting to like the looks of them, especially in the light maple;)

I don't think the old to new driver is as simple as a swap. It is not just a dust cap color change. You would also need to change the crossover.


It's just a color change.
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#311238 - 06/22/10 09:14 PM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: SRoode]
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To change the drivers, you MAY also need to change wiring and crossovers. And conversely, you MAY need to change drivers and wiring if you wish to change a crossover. It really depends on what version you currently have. We have had numerous conversations over this topic on the boards lately. I’m not positive one way or the other if the all white drivers are the same as V2 drivers, but think not.




Edited by michael_d (06/22/10 09:18 PM)
Edit Reason: Too much info....
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#311246 - 06/22/10 10:15 PM Re: VP180 - ATMOSPHERIC ANGST [Re: michael_d]
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Well the dust cap change is already causing confusion and misinformation. Wait what will happen that are not in the know ;\) . I'll wait till Axiom responds about how they will handle driver replacements for the older versions to further comment.

From a purely cosmetic standpoint, the new all aluminum drivers would look absolutely ridiculous with the older drivers with the black dust cap and from my own personal standpoint would not be happy if I have ever have to replace any of the drivers and they are the new all aluminum cones.
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