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#312627 - 06/29/10 11:50 AM Axiom comparable to Paradigm Studio 100/CC690 v5
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I just auditioned Paradigm Studio 100/CC-690/ADP-590 all v5 and was really impressed with sound and look of it however after lot of reading I am learning that Axiom offers similar sound quality to Paradigm at a significantly lower cost and I am interested if any current Axiom owners had any opportunity to compare Axioms with Paradigm Studio line. My main usage would be about 60% movies/HT, 30% HD Cable and 10% would be music - Rock, Pop, some Hip-hop, Jazz, Indian classical, etc... I really like the fact that Axiom offers 30-day in home trial and my goal is to get some initial feedback before signing up for in-home trial. I have auditioned B&W 600 series as well but like the Paradigm's sound stage and bit brighter sound.

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#312632 - 06/29/10 11:54 AM Re: Axiom comparable to Paradigm Studio 100/CC690 v5 [Re: avsnoob10]
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Hi avsnoob10, and welcome to the forums.

I know that there have been some threads comparing the two, but I haven't done the comparing directly and the "search" function is down at the moment, likely due to the new forum software still being tweaked.

So, I'm not helpful other than the "welcome"...!
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#312633 - 06/29/10 11:54 AM Re: Axiom comparable to Paradigm Studio 100/CC690 v5 [Re: avsnoob10]
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I have a friend who owns Studio 100. They are very similar to my M80s. The Studio-100 (or, if I was going to be able to afford them, the Signature-8) were my first choice until I discoved Axiom. I do not regret one second to have gone the Axiom road.
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#312643 - 06/29/10 01:14 PM Re: Axiom comparable to Paradigm Studio 100/CC690 v5 [Re: avsnoob10]
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Originally Posted By: avsnoob10
I just auditioned Paradigm Studio 100/CC-690/ADP-590 all v5 and was really impressed with sound and look of it however after lot of reading I am learning that Axiom offers similar sound quality to Paradigm at a significantly lower cost and I am interested if any current Axiom owners had any opportunity to compare Axioms with Paradigm Studio line. My main usage would be about 60% movies/HT, 30% HD Cable and 10% would be music - Rock, Pop, some Hip-hop, Jazz, Indian classical, etc... I really like the fact that Axiom offers 30-day in home trial and my goal is to get some initial feedback before signing up for in-home trial. I have auditioned B&W 600 series as well but like the Paradigm's sound stage and bit brighter sound.



This is a topic I have mentioned before on a number of occasions along with other contributors in that when they first started out, many Canadian-based speaker companies(Paradigm, PSB, AND Axiom among others)all started their initial R&D using the sound facilities at the National Research Council in Ottawa, Ontario. They all essentially wanted to build a product that was as transparent and neutral as possible and these testing areas allowed them to do that.

Of course what you have today, regardless of price and particular choice of cabinet design with each manufacturer, are speakers that have a relatively similar sound , hence, the comments and comparisons you may have heard or read about which are essentially accurate. Paradigm and PSB, for example, sell through retailers and Axiom through the net so you will get a similar sounding speaker for significantly less money, better warranties and a much larger choice of cabinet finishes, should you wish them and that is along with the 30 day return guarantee.

I have had the Paradigm Studio Series(which are now in another part of my house)and now have Axiom M80s and other of their models in my A/V set-up. The Axiom line is simply much better value and with the many options of upgrading and quality of after market service gives you something that retailers just can't offer.

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#312647 - 06/29/10 01:50 PM Re: Axiom comparable to Paradigm Studio 100/CC690 v5 [Re: casey01]
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Thanks everyone. I am assuming the Paradigm Studio 100/CC-690/ADP-590 comparable system would be Axiom M80v3/V180/QS8v3 and if I ever decide to upgrade to 7.1 will have to add pair of M2v3 or M3v3. One think I noticed in the case of M80 and V180 is that they are 4 ohm speakers compared to Paradigm Studio 100 and CC-690 which are 8 ohm speakers. Do I need an external amp to compensate on impedance? Currently I have Pioneer Elite SC-25 receiver and have a huge family room/game room/basement - 22'x26' with 10' ceiling. Not that I am trying to fill the whole area because only about 40-45% of that area will be used for HT, remaining area is for kids play as well as little pantry/kitchen/wet bar but it is all one open space.

By the way, I am not finding customer/pro reviews on V180, when I auditioned Paradigm, the CC-690 center channel is one big center speaker and very important for my 60%+ usage for movies/HT, how is everyone experience with V180 as a center, at least from the dimensions it seems like a pretty big center channel as well, but I am interested to know how is the sound quality specifically listening to dialogues if you have two rows of seating which I don't have currently, I just have a very large sectional but want to invest in theater seating at some point.

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#312650 - 06/29/10 02:01 PM Re: Axiom comparable to Paradigm Studio 100/CC690 v5 [Re: avsnoob10]
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The VP180 is brand new... by about a week! There are a few threads on it within the forum though. Most seem to summarize around "fantastic" or so.

Your Elite shouldn't have any problems. Axiom speakers, even the 4 Ohm ones, are easy to drive and efficient. Unless you like it insanely loud or have a cavernous area to fill!
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#312652 - 06/29/10 02:03 PM Re: Axiom comparable to Paradigm Studio 100/CC690 v5 [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Here's a thread on reviews for VP180.

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#312653 - 06/29/10 02:04 PM Re: Axiom comparable to Paradigm Studio 100/CC690 v5 [Re: CatBrat]
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Oh, sure. Be all helpful with a link and stuff.
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#312657 - 06/29/10 02:07 PM Re: Axiom comparable to Paradigm Studio 100/CC690 v5 [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
Oh, sure. Be all helpful with a link and stuff.

:snicker:

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#312666 - 06/29/10 02:33 PM Re: Axiom comparable to Paradigm Studio 100/CC690 v5 [Re: avsnoob10]
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Originally Posted By: avsnoob10
One think I noticed in the case of M80 and V180 is that they are 4 ohm speakers compared to Paradigm Studio 100 and CC-690 which are 8 ohm speakers. Do I need an external amp to compensate on impedance? Currently I have Pioneer Elite SC-25 receiver and have a huge family room/game room/basement - 22'x26' with 10' ceiling. Not that I am trying to fill the whole area because only about 40-45% of that area will be used for HT, remaining area is for kids play as well as little pantry/kitchen/wet bar but it is all one open space.


Your Pioneer will be fine. There are many M80 owners using less powerful receivers than your SC25. Actually, I've read more claims about the Studio 100's requiring external amps (dipping to as low as 2ohm) than I have the M80's.

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By the way, I am not finding customer/pro reviews on V180, when I auditioned Paradigm, the CC-690 center channel is one big center speaker and very important for my 60%+ usage for movies/HT, how is everyone experience with V180 as a center, at least from the dimensions it seems like a pretty big center channel as well, but I am interested to know how is the sound quality specifically listening to dialogues if you have two rows of seating which I don't have currently, I just have a very large sectional but want to invest in theater seating at some point.


The VP180 was just released this month, so you won't find many reviews. I have one and so far I can say that I'm very happy with it. Dialogue, music / soundtrack, sound effects all come out clear, clean, and detailed with lots of punch. I have two rows of seats and the VP180 sounds great from every listening position.

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