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I just got a pair of the QS 8's and was wondering what height some of you my have tried, I know the typical hgts above ear level, I'm looking for real world experience.
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WUP, the "typical" heights are based on "real world experience".


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since i don't own any yet, i can't give you that "real world experience" (which i would think would be a little different for everyone) but the manual says

"Placement / Positionnement
Quadpolar surround speakers in a 5.1 system will sound their best and produce the greatest sense of envelopment in the surround soundfield if they are to each side of the listening area (see diagram) rather than on the rear walls, and from 1 to 5 feet above the level of seated listener’s ears."

I do plan on getting a pair of these great surrounds for side surrounds and i plan on putting mine 3' to the bottom of the spaker from my ear level. hope tht maybe something here helped. of course i wouldn't mind hearing from other on this either.

good luck with the "real world"

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Thanks SD,
I'm going to try 2-3 feet above ear level
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2 feet above seated ear level is my recommendation.


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Thank you DW,
I'm going to try and install them today, I will post my results.
Have a great Day!
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QS8's are quite forgiving(by design), 2-4' is probably optimal with ceiling clearance taken into account, imo. Every room is obviously a little different.


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i have a slightly unrelated question about the QS8 installation. the wall bumpers i'll gather are "stick on" devices that attach to the speaker? it says in the manual to place them on the bottom L & R of the speaker. will this ruin the finish and if you ever needed to take them off (for whatever reason) and have any of you used the bumpers and if so what do you think of them. personnaly, i would have preferred to have had threaded holes made into those areas where the bumpers would go and the bumpers have short threaded sections to attach to the speakers for easy removal and it would also come with little black plastic blank caps if you chose not to use the bumpers.
anyone have any thoughts or comments? i am curious to hear the views of others.


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The bumpers have a rather mild adhesive on them. I don't see myself ever not using them, but I wouldn't worry about removing them. If anything a little goo remover might be needed. Also they go on the back side of the speaker, not a commonly seen part.


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The bumpers have a rather mild adhesive on them. I don't see myself ever not using them, but I wouldn't worry about removing them. If anything a little goo remover might be needed. Also they go on the back side of the speaker, not a commonly seen part.


cool, i meant the bottom L & R of the back. also another question thought is that you need the bumpers so that you can get your cable behind the speaker to connect into the jacks. are the binding post indented enough (working with the way the bracket is designed and the bumpers) so that banana plugs will connect without hitting the wall? i notice on some bi & di-pole speakers that folks complain about not having the ability to attach banana plugs to them without them hitting the wall. again, that where i figure the bumpers come in to act as spacers giving you that extra bit of cushion of space for banana plugs and cable to fit behind the speaker without it actually resting on them.

did that make sense?


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Nope, you'll have no luck with banana plugs on the Qs. Bare wire works juuuuust fine, though.


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Make a big gaping hole in the drywall (not on a stud!) directly behind the binding post on the QS speakers and the banana plugs will work perfectly fine ... I don't know what the heck Ken is talking about. confused

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Originally Posted By: JohnK
WUP, the "typical" heights are based on "real world experience".


Pfffffffffffttt... I just spent forever trying to figure out what the heck WUP was an acronym for!

Lol. crazy


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Originally Posted By: Micah
Originally Posted By: JohnK
WUP, the "typical" heights are based on "real world experience".


Pfffffffffffttt... I just spent forever trying to figure out what the heck WUP was an acronym for!

Lol. crazy


i don't get it, what does WUP stand for?

NEVER MIND, I just got it! wink

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Make a big gaping hole in the drywall (not on a stud!) directly behind the binding post on the QS speakers and the banana plugs will work perfectly fine ... I don't know what the heck Ken is talking about. confused

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SD, I'm kidding ... Ken is right about the bare wires working just fine and dandy.



yeah, but it just makes the installation that much more of a pain. with banana plugs i could simply hold the speaker, plug them in and set it to mounting. not gonna be that simple with trying to hold the speaker up in the air, put the bare wire in, tighten down on the connctors and them the mounting. so far, i don't know if anyone who makes these types of speakers has really thought about just making the well for the binding post a little deeper for just this issue. this isn't limited to axiom either it's almost every maker of this design of speaker.


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For the QS series, I suggested they make a bracket mounting system like the M0 has, where you can wire to the bracket itself. That would make that whole step easier. This wouldn't make sense for everyone, but it would be nice as a Customize Yours option. I'm not sure if they're actually going to offer this or not.

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For the QS series, I suggested they make a bracket mounting system like the M0 has, where you can wire to the bracket itself. That would make that whole step easier. This wouldn't make sense for everyone, but it would be nice as a Customize Yours option. I'm not sure if they're actually going to offer this or not.


apparently the optional full metal bracket offered by axiom works with the QS8's and offers the solution i was hoping for. I think i'll invest in a pair of them, anyone use these brackets with the QS8 or other axiom speaker and if so, what do you think of them?

http://axiomaudio.com/gallery_qs8_wall.html

http://axiomaudio.com/fullmetalbracket.html#


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I'll let other people who've actually used them drown out my ignorance, but I recall people who've used the FMBs have been very satisfied with the strength of the brackets. I bought the ceiling version but have not used them yet, since I bought them in anticipation of using them in my basement, whenever that whole transition happens. But yeah, if you don't mind them sticking out from the wall that little bit, my impression is it's a great solution.

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I'll let other people who've actually used them drown out my ignorance, but I recall people who've used the FMBs have been very satisfied with the strength of the brackets. I bought the ceiling version but have not used them yet, since I bought them in anticipation of using them in my basement, whenever that whole transition happens. But yeah, if you don't mind them sticking out from the wall that little bit, my impression is it's a great solution.


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I just placed my order for the QS8 surround speakers. i expect that i will have them by Friday. I'll keep you posted.


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Thank you For all your input grin
My QS 8's ended up 5'1"(bottom of speaker) from the floor.This is approx 2' above ear level for me. It seems to work well for me.
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solarrdadd, I mounted QS8's with the fmb's, and have no complaints. They are very sturdy brackets, and you can adjust for different speaker positioning, tilt, twist, etc.




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Very good, WUP; your 2' real world experience has been added to the data bank and will figure into the typical number in the future. Enjoy.


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Solardadd, I used FMB's for my QS8's and they work great. the QS8 has a bolt in the center which the FMB attaches with and the FMB is very sturdy.




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They say 2-3 feet so the center of my tweeters are exactly 2'6" above ear level smile Oh, and the QS8s sound great right there!

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Ok, well, i got my final shipment of speakers from Axiom today. I received my two QS8 surrounds. The only thing i'm waiting for now is for UPS to come and pick up the VP180v3 center back (remember, they shipped me the one with 2 speaker post instead of the one with 4 speaker post that i ordered)

well, uncle solarrdadd does not dissappoint, who wants some box porn!?! come and get it little kids!

the first thing i'd like to say is that the speakers have a good weight and feel to them; they are not flimsy cheap speakers. very well made and yes, they have 4 grill covers, one for each driver and are magnetic to confirm with the V3 standards. i can't wait until later on today to install them and hear what it's all about.

here is the initial boxes delivered with one opened to make sure it wasn't a box of rocks or something! I opened them in front of the bigger members of the family so they could also welcome them to the family!


lets take a peek inside the box, wonder what's in there...oh Lord, an Axiom
QS8v3, now how did that get in there! manual and extras too, isn't that special!


well, here it is, out of the box, can't wait to show off either i'm sure!


like most of us when we were little, we liked to run around the house with no shirt or pants on; it just seamed natural and what did we expect with the whole family doing it. gotta bring the little ones up right ya know!


of course, we also never had a problem showing off that back while we had nothing on either!


and of course the audio stork who delivered you left a mounting bracket, post wrench and some lower-back bumpers for ya!


that's it for now, i'll be installing these boys later today. i'm gonna take a breather and listen to some jazz on the sirius radio and wait for the UPS person.

i will throw up some install/installed pictures when i'm done and let you know what i think with some initial test media later on. My audio upgrades to my HT system are now complete. wink


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Originally Posted By: solarrdad
My audio upgrades to my HT system are now complete.

That's what I said about 3 months ago and I'm still buying stuff.

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Originally Posted By: solarrdadd
i will throw up

ewww.

You must be REALLY excited about your new speakers!


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Originally Posted By: solarrdadd
i will throw up

ewww.

You must be REALLY excited about your new speakers!


why yes i am!


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i am curious, what are some of you setting your crossovers for your QS8's? and how do you like where you have them set or what would you recommend setting them at?


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80Hz


that's where mine are set, thanks people! they sound great too!


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Hi SD,
I got mine at 80Hz too
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well, i installed the new axiom QS8v3 surrounds and they work great. better than i could have imagined. the bracket installation was easy and the installation was easy too. though, since they don't make the QS8v3 in a dual binding post model, i could use the 14/4 bi-wire cable i made for them, so i converted them to standard 2 wire duty, simply doubling up on the conductors for each pole and they worked like a charm. also because of the design, i couldn't use my banana plug connectors so i went bare-back with them (i will accept responsibility for doing so :o:p;)) but that went smoothly too. and wow do they sound great, i mean really great too. before i go to bed, i'm gonna throw on some Elton John (DVD-A), Billy Joel (SACD/DSD) & AIX Records HD Video/Music Sampler on blu that came with the Oppos to check out the new surrounds with music. i'll comment on that tomorrow! here are a couple of shots!


bracket in place, secured to the wall. note the white monoprice 14/4 cable to the bottom right!


speaker mounted and in place.


QS8v3 shown here playing nicely with the step brother Polk TSi100, both are left channels with the Q being the surround left and the TSi being the surround back left. they and their right sided siblings play very nicely together in the background except for the fact that the TSi teases the QS because the polk has 4 terminal for speaker cable and is bi-wired and the QS only has 2 and feels a little left out, of course it throws it back at the Polk reminding it that it is he that has been adopted by the Axiom family, huh, children! wink :p laugh


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Looks good and glad to hear you like them. Are you going to try the QS8s all by themselves to see if you notice a difference with the Polks not playing?

I particularily like the speaker wire stapled to the wall grin


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Looks good and glad to hear you like them. Are you going to try the QS8s all by themselves to see if you notice a difference with the Polks not playing?

I particularily like the speaker wire stapled to the wall grin


it's stapled to the wall because it won't lay flat and it bows up and sticks out. it's a UL listed staple for just that type of cable too there is actually plastic insulation around that staple so it won't damage the cable. you cant see it because the flash washes out the white plastic body of the staple and blends it in with the white out jacket of the cable and highlights the shiny metal(hee-haw!). the polk speaker you see are for channels 6 & there is another to the left of it for channel 7. those speakers only produce sound when the track is 7 channels otherwise they do nothing. the QS8's are the surround workhorses!

i have noticed that they produce a different sound in relation to direct radiating speakers and i like that for the side surrounds. they were very powerful during multichannel music. i will be spending some more time with them tonight and over the coming weekend and next week to really give them the "once over"

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