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Re: Which Axiom HT package for Denon 1610?
Ken.C #311521 06/24/10 06:26 AM
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WHat Ken said + I have tried the M22 as a single center placed horizontally and it doesn't sound too bad from the sweet spot but the rest of the seating suffers greatly as the M22 is designed for horzontal dispersion which when layed flat is now vertical dispersion and the VP series is designed for the best of both worlds.


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Re: Which Axiom HT package for Denon 1610?
jakewash #312299 06/28/10 01:33 PM
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Ok Three Vertical M22s or M22 + VP 150 combo depending on the available space.

Surrounds - QS4s or QS8s?

Which sub? I will not be buying Axiom subs, so suggestions on other brands like SVS will be appreciated.

I have uploaded a floor plan in the first page, please base your suggestions on that.

Re: Which Axiom HT package for Denon 1610?
fullerms #312316 06/28/10 04:04 PM
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3 M22's and QS8's would be the best, IMO. Take your pick on any sub from Hsu, SVS, Outlaw Audio, Elemental Designs, Epik, they all are getting great reviews. Even Axiom's subs are a good bang for the buck (EP350 and up) now that the rest have increased their pricing over the past few years while Axiom has pretty much stood still.


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Re: Which Axiom HT package for Denon 1610?
jakewash #312502 06/29/10 12:54 AM
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I don't live in the US, so my choices are a little limited. Brands like Svs, wharfedale, b&w, monitor audio, polk, velodyne, mordaunt short and tannoy are some of the brands available locally.

Please help me with suggestion on brand / model and I will audition them locally.

Re: Which Axiom HT package for Denon 1610?
fullerms #312561 06/29/10 05:44 AM
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From that list, I'd suggest that you consider the SVS PB12-NSD(or the PC12-NSD cylinder); fine subs at a fair price(at least they are in the U.S. at $599).


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Re: Which Axiom HT package for Denon 1610?
JohnK #312570 06/29/10 06:18 AM
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Any Paradigm dealers around? Their DSP series is a good deal IMO and they sound very similar to Axiom's own subs.


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Re: Which Axiom HT package for Denon 1610?
jakewash #312790 06/30/10 04:00 AM
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I checked the local prices of the Paradigm DSP 3200 and the SVS PB-12NSD. They are selling for about 785 USD with local warranty. Thats about half the price of the EP500!.

Is the EP500 worth the additional 600 USD? If so, how and why?

Related question on the Axiom Subs. Can they take 220 Volts?

Re: Which Axiom HT package for Denon 1610?
fullerms #312806 06/30/10 06:08 AM
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I am going with the idea that this system is for HT first and music second:

The 500 is better than either the 3200 or the 12nsd, IMO. The 12-NSD is better than the 3200 at least for HT. The 12-nsd has a bit of a bump in FR at 50-60hz and it hits quite hard because of it. It makes music a little unnatural, at least to me. I think the Paradigm 3400 is more on par with the 12-nsd only smoother and the 500 would be that much stronger than either one IMO. Only you can decide if it is really worth the extra money.

Having said that I think you would be very happy with any of the subs you have mentioned. Have you considered the EP350 from Axiom? I think the EP350 is Axiom's best deal, it is a great sub and does very well with either music or movies, nearly the equal to the EP500, again IMO.


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Re: Which Axiom HT package for Denon 1610?
jakewash #313225 07/03/10 11:17 AM
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I dont live in the US. Asked around a few dealers, and these are the local prices converted to USD

SVS PB 12 NSD = 790 USD
SVS PB 12 Plus = 1615 USD
SVS SB 12 Pus = 1004 USD

Paradigm DSP 3200 = 790 USD

Axiom EP 500 after shipping and taxes = 1475 USD
Axiom EO 350 after shipping and taxes = 908 USD

Which one would you guys recommend as most value for money? I am looking for a sub that does well in both music and HT.

Re: Which Axiom HT package for Denon 1610?
fullerms #313571 07/07/10 08:34 AM
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anyone? Bump.....

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