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#314485 - 07/13/10 10:56 AM Re: My HT evolution project. [Re: CatBrat]
Murph Offline
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You think the bookshelf M22s are to bassy? I've never heard them so I can't comment but you are definitely the first person I ever heard to say that. I wonder if there is not something else amiss?
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#314488 - 07/13/10 11:02 AM Re: My HT evolution project. [Re: Murph]
CatBrat Offline
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Probably the reason for this is my ears get attuned to one set of speakers. Then when I switch, (ie from bookshelf to on-wall and visa-versa) any differences really stand out.

Edit: But also, logically this makes sense. You're talking about a big box verses a flat box.


Edited by CatBrat (07/13/10 11:04 AM)

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#314508 - 07/13/10 12:58 PM Re: My HT evolution project. [Re: CatBrat]
Murph Offline
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Definitely a possibility on #1

However, #2 makes sense if you say "More bass". Saying "Too much bass" makes it sound like the speakers are boomy or something which would have surprised me greatly given all of their previous reports.

However, I do realize that it's totally subjective and I get what you are trying to say. Thanks for clarifying as I was more trying to understand vs. argue.
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#314511 - 07/13/10 01:05 PM Re: My HT evolution project. [Re: Murph]
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Ok, thanks. I probably should have avoided the word "too". Too bassy. Too tinney. But I used the extra emphasis just to get my point across. More accurately, it would probably be "with a lot of extra bass" and "with a little extra brightness".

The funny part is, upon measurement, the bookshelf does not have a lot of extra bass, but my ears can really tell the difference. Most people would probably attribute this to seeing the visual difference, ie. not a blind test. But I know this not to be true due to a/b testing with certain cd's, dvds.

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#314530 - 07/13/10 02:47 PM Re: My HT evolution project. [Re: CatBrat]
Murph Offline
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I'm hoping that as an event for participants at the big Axiom Get Together that they set up a big, double blind listening test with a bunch of speakers and let folks have at it and keep their scores/comments on paper, then review. We all regularly express our opinions here and I'd love to actually see what happens in a true controlled listening test, including my own reactions. Would we all be as good as we think? Would the M80 posse be able to defend their turf or would we all gain a new respect for those trained and experienced at listening tests, like Alan?

Sadly, I won't be there cry but I'm sure we would hear about it here at the boards.
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#314534 - 07/13/10 03:03 PM Re: My HT evolution project. [Re: Murph]
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I'll take pictures of the listening tests and record audio of the viewing comparisons.

Hmmmm...audio of the visuals and visuals of the audio may not be all that helpful now that I think about it.
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#314869 - 07/15/10 09:32 AM Re: My HT evolution project. [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Since I'm going to have a pair of On-wall M22's left over, I think I've decided to use them as surrounds for now. But I'll have to mount them on the rear wall, close to each other near the center of the wall. Definitely not optimal, but perhaps better than none. At least then I can experience Dolby TrueHD, because this doesn't seem to work on a 3.1 system.

Edit: Also, going to need a lot of speaker wire. I can run them down the inside of a wall, then out to just over the baseboard for a short run to another area where I've previously drilled a hole inside the wall to go to the basement. Then across the basement ceiling (unfinished) and up to the closet where the AVR resides.

Edit2: I've been wanting to prep and paint this wall for sometime anyway. Looks like now's a good time to get started.


Edited by CatBrat (07/15/10 09:38 AM)

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#314879 - 07/15/10 11:17 AM Re: My HT evolution project. [Re: CatBrat]
CatBrat Offline
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Some more food for thought.

See Figure 3

A, B, A+B switch

Volume control Except, I don't like the idea of a 12 position switch. Prefer variable instead.

Edit: Not exactly what I'm looking for.

Setup: Bookshelf M22's mounted on wall. On-wall M2's mounted above them. Left channel driving M2 and M22 on Left. Right channel driving M2 and M22 on Right. M22 is rated 3db higher than M2.

Looking for: (A) Switch to turn off bookshelf or On-wall. (B) Volume control for bookshelf to turn them down so that on-wall may be emphasized. Good quality switches that won't interfere with quality of sound, and will work with at least 100 watt of power.


Edited by CatBrat (07/15/10 11:35 AM)

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#314880 - 07/15/10 11:34 AM Re: My HT evolution project. [Re: CatBrat]
ClubNeon Offline
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It's very hard to build (read: impossible) to build a speaker-level, signal attenuator, which is both continuously variable, and has a flat frequency response.

That's why that volume control has steps instead of a smooth variance.

I just don't like the idea of placing resistors inline with the speakers.
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#314881 - 07/15/10 11:37 AM Re: My HT evolution project. [Re: ClubNeon]
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I wonder how many decibles each position of the switch attenuates?

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