Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Advice from Axiom Owners Sturdy Little Bracket (SLB) - Capable for M22?

Hey Guys,

Any Axiom owners using SLB for M22's? My installation will not accommodate the Full Metal Bracket, but can accept the more compact Sturdy Little Bracket.

Thanks in advance...

Bill

In the product description it says:

"Axiom's Sturdy Little Bracket is engineered with steel frame construction and made to handle speakers weighing up to 60 lbs.* Easily affixable to the bolt on the back of Axiom's compact speakers, centers, and the outdoor Algonquins, the Sturdy Little Bracket can be tilted up or down and locked off in position with the supplied bolts. It even allows for horizontal mounting of Axiom's loudspeakers - just turn the speakers and lock them into place."

The bracket will hold up to 60lbs. There should be no problem whatsoever using it with the M22.

The main problem with M22s and brackets is the height of the speaker. If you need to angle it down a lot, the bottom of the speaker touches the wall very quickly (I have that problem with the full metal bracket).

Will you need to angle the speaker up or down?

Eric,
An easy way to simply correct this situation is to install on the wall a wooden bearing plate/block which will act as a shim and then screw the Axiom FMB or Sturdy Little Bracket to it. I does not take a thick shim to increase the tilt down angle, if needed.

You're right! It could actually be made to look good if someone is good with tools.

My application will be three horizontally mounted M22's (l/c/r). They will be attached about 5.5 inches from the ceiling and angled downwards towards the viewing position. The built in wall unit in the basement that houses the Hifi equipement is 17 feet wide and has left and right angled recesses that are 2.5 feet long angled towards the central viewing position.

Thanks for your help guys.

I think Jc is right on. The standard bracket is meant to mount flat on a vertical surface, and is brilliantly designed to do just that. It is not designed to take weight on the tabs or bracket in an off vertical orientation.

M22 owners,

Could someone please provide specs on the distance from the thread on the M22's to the speaker binding posts. Also the thread on the M22's appears dead centre on the speaker. Is this right?

Thanks in advance.

I used 3/4" plastic stand-offs between the wall and the bracket on the top two screws. This creates a nice ~10deg angle. A bit hard to tell from the pic, except the vertical lines on the QS8's are not parallel to the other vertical lines in the room.

Click on MyHT and see the 3rd and 4th pics.

Scott

Hi wbedford,

The bolt is 10" fom the bottom of the speaker (almost dead center); 6" above the outside edge of the binding posts bucket and 5.5" below the edge of the rear port.

JC,

Would my Axiom warranty be voided if I added another threaded insert in purchased M22's? I am worried about 16lbs on a single 1/4 threaded insert...

Honestly, the issue that's worrying you has happened to exactly one person that we know of since the threaded inserts started to be available. Many people use them quite safely on M22s and even VP150s, including the owner of the company.

kcarlile,

I am concerned about twisting of the m22 when mounted horizontally. The second insert would prevent twisting and ensure I do not have to torque too tightly on the single threaded insert to keep them horizontal.

Bill

Bill,

Your concern about twisting when horizontally mounted is valid, as I doubt the threaded insert is located along the center of mass in that orientation. My M22s are fairly old and did not come with a threaded insert. When I attached them to the Full Metal Brackets (vertically), I screwed directly through the brackets into the rear of the speaker with four round-head wood screws. If I were you, I'd forego the threaded insert entirely, locate the center of mass, and attach the mount at that location.

pmbuko,

Thanks for taking the time to respond. I am worried a single
threaded insert will not suffice for horizontally mounting the M22.

As I only need to adjust the speaker up and down when its mounted, the sturdy little bracket (SLB) will do for me. As the SLB has two threading holes, I am just waiting to hear back from an Axiom professional. According to Axiom warranty disclaimer, if i add a second mounting point, I will void warranty.

I'd clear it with Axiom first, but catalogue # 90975A063 from McMaster-Carr , pressed in from the back should give a significant increase in load capability over the smaller OD flanged insert currently used.

Scott

a401classic,

Perfect website thanks. Just waiting on their answer. I wouldnt mind doing the second threaded insert myself, but would pay Axiom to do it if the price was right...

Bill