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#318985 - 08/18/10 10:57 AM Re: R.I.P. AV123 [Re: BlueJays1]
Adrian Offline
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Registered: 12/27/08
Posts: 6613
Loc: It's all about the location.
An anechoic jail cell to do the testing in?
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#318987 - 08/18/10 10:58 AM Re: R.I.P. AV123 [Re: Adrian]
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Registered: 09/19/08
Posts: 4079
Loc: Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire
I hear the warden is an audiophile, so sure. laugh laugh
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#319022 - 08/18/10 04:05 PM Re: R.I.P. AV123 [Re: MarkSJohnson]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 7123
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
Originally Posted By: Adrian
What are the acoustics like in a jail cell?

Answer #2:
Just ask any married man....

Have a good vacation Mark? I see you're fully rested and in top form again. smile
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#319066 - 08/18/10 10:35 PM Re: R.I.P. AV123 [Re: richeydog]
Montclair Offline
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Registered: 07/28/05
Posts: 67
Loc: California
Iím not sorry to see AV123 bite the dust.
Iíve been watching that dive for awhile.

The Audioholics review of their Rocket UFW-10 sub-woofer was pretty good, and I enjoyed my pair for the 5 years they lasted. They blended very nicely with my M22ís. However, the amplifiers started having quirky problems years later and it became very clear AV123 had no interest in their past customers. When I recently replaced the amplifiers with some Dayton units, I came to understand why the amplifiers died. They really pushed those amps hard to get the tiny UFW-10ís to play down at 30Hz. I now have a very nice pair of authoritative woofers that play to about 50Hz. My M22ís do almost as well.

As a ďstand-upĒ company, Axiom benefits from this since Iíve splurged and upgraded my whole front array with M80ís, VP180 and an EP800. I want BASS dang it! I hope to get them in a week or 2.

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#319072 - 08/18/10 11:07 PM Re: R.I.P. AV123 [Re: Montclair]
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Registered: 09/19/08
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This industry and consumers will be better off without them. I agree. Bringing unreliable products to the market while at the same time undermining legitimate competitive advantage in a variety of ways only hurt companies selling and providing reliable, quality products and customer service. In the long run, a business run such as they were is not only bad for consumers but for legitimate, hard working companies that are trying to remain competitive or in cases with small independent companies trying to enter the market.

Just look at their sales prices. Like the old saying "if it sounds too good to be true"....the sales prices where not indicative in how legitimate companies gain cost advantages over time like through technology, advertising, specialized labor/manufacturing or economies of scale in production etc as a few examples.

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#319087 - 08/19/10 01:08 AM Re: R.I.P. AV123 [Re: BlueJays1]
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Registered: 05/11/02
Posts: 10403
Dr. Horse, you may be right about the 0 time served, but not all judges and prosecuting attorneys are lenient with audio enthusiasts. Questions raised here about the audio quality available to imprisoned audiophile/criminals remind me again of this case .
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#319088 - 08/19/10 01:50 AM Re: R.I.P. AV123 [Re: JohnK]
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Registered: 04/02/03
Posts: 16289
Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
Those were good times back in 2004, John. smile
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#319089 - 08/19/10 01:55 AM Re: R.I.P. AV123 [Re: pmbuko]
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Registered: 05/11/02
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Yeah Peter, but Sully was never heard from again. Maybe he didn't heed the warning?
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#319097 - 08/19/10 09:03 AM Re: R.I.P. AV123 [Re: JohnK]
Adrian Offline
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Registered: 12/27/08
Posts: 6613
Loc: It's all about the location.
John, that story is hilarious.
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#319103 - 08/19/10 10:07 AM Re: R.I.P. AV123 [Re: Adrian]
BlueJays1 Offline
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Registered: 09/19/08
Posts: 4079
Loc: Porch,enjoying Bombay Sapphire
Following this saga is just so f'dddd up. I looks like there was a victim with their latest vaporware which was the second generation rockets G2. So sad.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=19070883#post19070883
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