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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
wbedford #319341 08/21/10 01:53 AM
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Originally Posted By: wbedford
[quote=newf]the mount can be used either way, Axiom's own picturesnshow it both ways.

Newf,

I looked for this on the Axiom site but am unable to find. Can you URL me?


You know something, I can't find it either now. But I did see one years back and it's how I got the idea. Regardless, there is nothing anywhere indicating that there is an "up" or "down"

My only intention by this post was for others to learn from my incident. Double up the bracket in the center or at least keep it low. If Axiom steps up and does something, fine, but I am technically out of warranty by a month. Am I disappointed, yes, was I pissed off, sure I was, these are my babies, heck everyone in the family knows to call the M80's the "twins". But it is what it is and that's that. Outside of that obvious damage to the back of speaker, there is not a mark on it otherwise. Benefit to carpet. My screen however is a 400.00 bill. Anyone that remembers me from way back might remember that my health took a dive sometime back and has not really improved. Sob story aside, I a have learned what is really worth stressing over...and it's my home theater....just kidding.

Anyways, my email is steves@nf.sympatico.ca if anyone needs it.



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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
Newf #319533 08/23/10 01:15 AM
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So, took a look at my situation a little close this weekend. That is after I reinstalled everything on my #$%@#$ PC because my hard drive crashed too....lovely week I'm having

Speaker as I stated was not damaged when it hit carpet floor. Amazing. The only thing that is really wrong with speaker is when that metal insert pulled itself through, it pulled some of the wood and veneer out and warped it. See earlier pics.

Screen is screwed. Nothing I can do there but replace it and swallow the bill.

However, since I had to take a speaker out of cabinet to get at the piece that was loose inside anyways, once I had it open I got an idea. By placing a thicker bolt through the mount hole, then using a nut and bolt combo to attached to full metal bracket, I think I'll have an even stronger mounting point.







See above the 10 cent piece of crap that failed. It amazes me really that it lasted near 5 years given how small and weak it is.

So, I am going to mount speaker back to where it was above screen. Afterall, as I said, the actual mount did not fail, it was the 10 cent piece of metal holding it to the speaker that caused all this damage. The mount is solid enough that I can do chin ups on it. I mounted it originally with larger screws and to double studs, so that is not a weak point. As long as the thicker bolt holds, and the 3 large washers inside the speaker I used, I should be good.

So, bottom line, speaker should be salvaged. I haven't turned it on since the fall but I suspect it's ok.

Next step save some money, find a screen again...oh joy.


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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
Newf #319534 08/23/10 01:39 AM
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I just realized something though, I have not turned speaker on or mounted it yet, it's late here now, it should be fine and all, but I may have screwed myself by fixing it, if it's fixed. I was never happy with the 150, it just doesn't go well with the m80's, it's too quiet or something...this could have been a great excuse to get the 180. I honestly had no idea there was a 180 until I came back here this week....I should have stayed away.





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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
Newf #319540 08/23/10 02:20 AM
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Good Idea throwing the larger bolt in there. By the looks of the picture inside, Im thinking you could have gone with a larger washer though. You know, spread out the love so to say. I might do this with my speaker and sleep better at night.

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72mustang #319613 08/23/10 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted By: 72mustang
Good Idea throwing the larger bolt in there. By the looks of the picture inside, Im thinking you could have gone with a larger washer though. You know, spread out the love so to say. I might do this with my speaker and sleep better at night.


+1

Go buy a "fender" washer - typically for a 1/4" diameter bolt, the washer OD will be 1" to 1-1/4" and should make it much harder to pull through.

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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
a401classic #319634 08/23/10 06:16 PM
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Newf,

I am looking bact at your second post on this thread (319168). How much vertical distance is there from the bottom of the wall portion of the FMB to the centre threaded insert on the FMB?

I am about to take the plunge with my order, and need to know if I opt for the FMB or the sturdy little bracket.... Thanks in advance.

Your re-fit looks good. Hope you find a good deal on a screen...

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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
wbedford #319886 08/24/10 10:18 PM
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sorry man, I never got the message until today, do you still need. I think it's about 4", but I'm not home right now and can't tell.

As to those saying it was over tightened...simply put, no. I'm not new at audio/video stuff and installed it for years pro. I was a DJ at the age of 12, yes 12. And spent a lifetime around audio. I do not overtighten things. This thing simply failed.


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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
Newf #322184 09/13/10 02:28 AM
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just an update, my modification to the fmb seems to have worked well, very sturdy now. Highly recommend people do it and not repeat my luck.

Contacting Axiom was a little disappointing. I think an issue like this should be taken more seriously. When a speaker of this size falls it is no laughing matter. Their mount is flawed and mounting point too weak for this weight. I was lucky, room was empty, but if this had fallen on a child, my dog etc.....this would have been much more serious thread.

Best of luck to all.


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Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
Newf #322189 09/13/10 02:38 AM
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Newf... dont mean to be a bother here.. but you mentioned contacting Axiom was "dissapointing"? Did I not read a few threads back that they told you to contact them and they would fix the problem? Would you care to share what is "dissapointing" about this offer? As with EVERY product ever made.. some break. Forest Gump said it best.. " Shit Happens ". You just happened to be that person with the "lemon" of a part that failed. However, I do also think that a single small connecting point to hold a 25lb item at an undesireable angle could (not should ) have been designed with a larger stronger bolt and holding bracket inside the speaker. Just my 2cents though. As the Axiom rep stated though... Only 2 failures in all that they have sold is an exceptional record for any manufacturer.

Re: Axiom Mount failed, ruined large screen!
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Sorry to hear Newf. I was never that happy with my FMB holding my VP150 either.

The FMB came up in a discussion Saturday at Axiom and Ian mentioned that the oval holes (below) on the FMB are to put in a wood screw or two to prevent the speaker from slipping/rotating. I kind of thought about it at the time but didn't want to screw into my speaker....especially when not ported haha

Ian mentioned that the documentation needs to be updated...



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