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Re: M60v3...Thoughts On and Questions About
JohnK #325749 10/16/10 05:25 AM
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Holy Holst John!! I was listening to the Dutoit Planets recording while reading your reply. I did as you suggested and put my ear right on the tweeter and mid-range speaker of each unit and found the left tweeter quite muffled and very distorted. To verify I switched the wiring and once again the left speaker was still muffled and distorted. It must be a defective tweeter. So I'll give Axiom a call.

Funny, after reading this forum for so long and knowing such problems exist, I didn't think to check it out on my own speakers. That's the difference between theory and practice. Thanks.

Re: M60v3...Thoughts On and Questions About
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However, I don't often listen at high levels and I do desire a more open mid and high range at lower levels. So, what do you suggest I can do to improve their performance?

This is the big difference Jay (jakewash) found between the M60v2 and M80v2.

Hopefully he will chime in here at some point soon.
That was indeed my perception with lower volume listening, M80v2 was cleaner crisper than M60v2. The M80v2 had better midrange and high frequency clarity over the M60v2. The M22/sub combo that JohnK uses has even better midrange/upper clarity, IMO, over the M80 as that combo lacks a little of the upper bass that blends in and yet washes out some of the lower midrange clarity.


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Re: M60v3...Thoughts On and Questions About
Captain4105 #325767 10/16/10 05:26 PM
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So again, I'm thinking of M22's, but with them I may loose the great bass response because (I may be wrong) I think the improvement is due to the two woofers in the M60's. Any thoughts?


I don't recommend getting M22. I had them in my living room for a few years with a 12", they are nice but far from excellence. They ended-up in my computer room which is 10x8 and they sound better there. Don't expect any bass from M22ti, they won't deliver.

I have 4 different home theater systems, all with Axiom speakers. I tried all my speakers on my various receivers and I also have tried all my speakers hooked to an external amp. All of them sounded very different, different enough for my wife to ask me to get an external amp on all the systems that she uses.

No matter how high I crank the speaker on the receivers, I barely see the drivers moving. When adding an external amplifier, they aren't the same. Even at lower volume. I know that a lot of people looks at specs and doc and they say that most receivers are sufficient but I don't agree.

I encourage everyone to go at your local music store and lease a power amp for the week-end! you will never live day another without one.

Power amp do have noisy fans so I got Emotiva 2x fanless amps for the living room.

Re: M60v3...Thoughts On and Questions About
Adrian #325792 10/16/10 11:17 PM
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Of course, if a certain young lady hadn't have had a wee bit too much to drink that evening, she could have made it to Caledon and heard some M80's the next day grin wink


Keep that invitation open Adrian. I'd love to come back and visit Canada soon! smile

As for M22s and a sub, I prefer my M60s better. Of course, I have only a small sub paired with my M22s, but it was very hard to mesh the two, IMO. If I had to do it all over again, I think I'd go straight for the M80s and not have to think twice. Anyhow, thanks Tom for your thorough reply. It made me appreciate what I already have...and I DO enjoy what I have as well. I can think of better ways to spend the money I DON'T have. wink


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Re: M60v3...Thoughts On and Questions About
sonicfox #325830 10/17/10 02:36 PM
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You're welcome anytime, Mary.


Uhhh....'cept Halloween. Gotta give out candy to the neighbourhood brats, errr!!....I mean little darlings.... grin


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Re: M60v3...Thoughts On and Questions About
Adrian #325832 10/17/10 02:38 PM
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We could come help you. I'm sure the neighbours would appreciate the 'unique' experience...


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fredk #325833 10/17/10 02:41 PM
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"...don't go to the house on the corner...it's full of AUDIOPHILES!!!...."


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Re: M60v3...Thoughts On and Questions About
Adrian #325835 10/17/10 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted By: Adrian
"...don't go to the house on the corner...it's full of AUDIOPHILES AUDIOPILES!!!...."

Fixed.

Hmm.... Audiopiles with duct tape. Could be another branch of the Moose Lodge.


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Re: M60v3...Thoughts On and Questions About
fredk #326782 10/28/10 08:03 AM
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UPDATE! I've now listened to the M60's for two weeks. I've determined that I am bothered by what seems to me to be a lack of balance in the upper mid's and high register of the speaker vis-a vis the register of the rest of the speaker. Only when the volume is raised, not by much, do these speakers sing. In any case I called Axiom about my tweeter problem and made further inquiries about the M80 which from my reading may very well solve this dilemma...that is listening to the full and balanced range of music at moderate levels. I'll be using my older Denon stereo receiver which JC said may perform better than later Denons. They'll take back the M60's and pay shipping in exchange for the M80's and I get them at the old FO price. I am very pleased with the service received by Axiom and their staff. They are eminently customer oriented and its been a pleasure to deal with them. I hope the M80 does the trick! I'll report the results when available....meanwhile I'll be searching for a new AVR to power them....Lee

Re: M60v3...Thoughts On and Questions About
Captain4105 #326783 10/28/10 08:25 AM
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Lee, I'd suggest listening before you start searching for a new receiver. Especially at the moderate listening levels that you use, your present receiver is highly likely to do the job, as I commented previously. The M80s use slightly less power than the M60s. Of course, if you want to expand into a surround setup, an HT receiver will be needed.


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