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Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout
billy p #323399 09/20/10 07:42 PM
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Axiom declined to participate. That's the long and the short of it.


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Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout
Ken.C #323400 09/20/10 07:58 PM
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(As did, evidently, many other of the major players in the field)


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Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout
MarkSJohnson #323471 09/21/10 02:12 PM
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I would like to see SVS's new DSP controlled amp equipped subs tested. Not even SVS has data for these units on their site. A friend of mine has their PC-12NSD and it is far more accurate and sensitive than my Outlaw LFM-1 Plus.


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Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout
prototype3a #323488 09/21/10 04:44 PM
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Any new subs to the market would be awesome to see. SVS is entering the vaunted PB12-Plus. As for new commercial subwoofers to the market, Rythmik Audio is entering a brand spanking new servo sub, the FV15HP which looks like a interesting product with some neat technology behind it.


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BlueJays1 #323496 09/21/10 06:57 PM
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That is definitely some interesting tech but I wonder if the voice coils run a bit warm or even hot since they are controlled more tightly.


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Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout
prototype3a #327959 11/10/10 06:33 AM
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There's an update on Audioholics about this shootout, and some insanity surrounding it.

http://www.audioholics.com/news/editorials/subwoofer-shootout

In the attached discussion it has been surmised that it was Axiom who was opposed to the groundplane measurements, and pulled advertising from the site.


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Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout
ClubNeon #327963 11/10/10 07:12 AM
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Well Axiom advertising does seem to be missing from the site now. And come to think of it they haven’t shown up in the “Featured Review” section for awhile.

Wonder if it was, what all went into the decision to pull the advertising. Like they have some hard marketing numbers to indicate that the adds their just weren’t paying off. I for one first discovered Axiom through one of Audioholics recommended systems.

Hard to judge w/o all the facts but it does seem like Axiom has been creating a lot of PR problems for itself in the last year.


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Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout
ClubNeon #327964 11/10/10 07:16 AM
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No subtle hint there with the tower mentioned, wouldn't be too hard to figure out.


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Re: Audioholics Ultimate Subwoofer Shootout
ClubNeon #327969 11/10/10 01:47 PM
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I never put much stock in this stuff anyway since everyone has their favorites and no matter how many people are doing the judging, speaker comparisons are always very subjective. Over the years Audioholics always spoke highly of Axiom products and even visited their plant so I am somewhat surprised at the "falling out" although, I guess every company, from time to time, will change directions in their marketing.

As far as questionable PR is concerned, that doesn't bother me as much as when a company starts to cease communications with its customers about late or non-committed delivery dates on a product which has already been paid for. The forums are starting to fill up with comments like this about "ED", a company that might be "on the brink" located in a town "on the brink"(Newton, Iowa, featured on "Sixty Minutes" two Sundays ago).

That is when I would start to worry.

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casey01 #327970 11/10/10 02:20 PM
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Kind of reminds me of the shootouts you see when they compare automobiles in magazines. You have a group of people who are interested in track times, another who is interested in bang-for-buck, others who's main focus is reliability or ride quality or economy....It always irks me when you read comments like "The xxxx blew everyone away on the track, so it should have won..."

In a subwoofer shootout, the reviewer imo would need to make it very clear what things they are judging/looking for...outright spl, accuracy, value, quality/reliability....otherwise you will get someone sending a Bugatti Veyron to a family sedan shootout.


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