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What's the best system for me... #333436 01/04/11 08:27 PM Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada C cgalland OP regular OP cgalland regular C Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada Hello, i'm new here. I just built a new house and i'm very interested in Axiom Speaker. I currently have a Yamaha receiver (RX-Z7). What speaker do you recommend? The home theater is 14x14 and 9 feet ceiling. I need a 5.1 system. thanks in advance chuck Last edited by cgalland; 01/04/11 08:37 PM.

Re: What system is best for me... cgalland #333437 01/04/11 08:39 PM Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy CatBrat axiomite CatBrat axiomite Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy Welcome. I would think that it all depends on what will fit in the space you have available and your budget. I'd always start with their M80's if I could for the mains, then work down from there. Have you tried the tab above called "HTWizard"? https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...amp;usp=sharing

Re: What system is best for me... CatBrat #333439 01/04/11 08:54 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada bdpf aficionado bdpf aficionado Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada First you need to tell us you application, mostly movies, music, what type, etc... then you need to give us your budget and then the people on this forum will make sure that you go well over it Welcome to the forum! Bruno M80s/VP180/QS8s/EP600/AVR-890 ------------------------------------ "The problem is choice..."

Re: What system is best for me... bdpf #333444 01/04/11 09:22 PM Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada C cgalland OP regular OP cgalland regular C Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada Originally Posted By: bdpf First you need to tell us you application, mostly movies, music, what type, etc... then you need to give us your budget and then the people on this forum will make sure that you go well over it Welcome to the forum! Thank you very much! My main objective is Movie. I have speaker in the ceiling for music. I think that the biggest speaker i can install is the M60 because of the holes I already have in the wall (max clearance is 38 inch)

Re: What's the best system for me... cgalland #333445 01/04/11 09:34 PM Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 6,471 Fredericksburg, Virginia medic8r axiomite medic8r axiomite Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 6,471 Fredericksburg, Virginia Originally Posted By: cgalland The home theater is 14x14 Finally, Mark gets a friend to join his Square Room Club. Chuck, MarkSJohnson should be along shortly to provide you with the official membership materials. Welcome! Bears, beets, Battlestar Galactica.

Re: What's the best system for me... medic8r #333447 01/04/11 09:49 PM Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy CatBrat axiomite CatBrat axiomite Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy Pictures would be good. Installing speakers in holes in the wall is beginning to sound like a bad idea. This would alter how the speakers sound in a negative way. Edit: Unless you buy speakers specifically made for this type of mounting system. Last edited by CatBrat; 01/04/11 09:57 PM. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...amp;usp=sharing

Re: What's the best system for me... CatBrat #333450 01/04/11 11:04 PM Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 282 P Philippe local Philippe local P Joined: Jul 2009 Posts: 282 Well the classic setup would be M60 as main, VP150/180 as center and QS back. For the subwoofer there is a plenty of option avalaible. If you want go with Axiom, then get a EP500. Plenty of power, but wait... There is also a EP800 Nad C356 DAC & C515 Axiom M3v3 Grant Fidelity RPF-120 MKII Analysis Plus Black Oval 12&10 JRiver 19

Re: What's the best system for me... Philippe #333453 01/04/11 11:50 PM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta J jakewash shareholder in the making jakewash shareholder in the making J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta If you are looking to place the speakers recessed into the wall then I would suggest the in cabinet series of speakers with the M60/M80s and the VP180 for center duty. the QS8's will be the speaker of choice for the surrounds and pick which ever sub you want from Axiom list of the EP350/500/600/800 or one from another company like Hsu, SVS(sonicboomaudio.com in Canada), eD(elemental Designs), or Epic to name a few others. Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70

Re: What's the best system for me... jakewash #333455 01/05/11 12:37 AM Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy CatBrat axiomite CatBrat axiomite Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy It'd be nice to know how deep those in-wall holes are, because the in-cabinet m60/m80 are roughly the same size, except the m60 is about 3 inches shallower. The M80 is 18 inches deep. Much too big for most walls. But there is the in-wall M22 that could work, again depending on what kind of hole you're trying to fit. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...amp;usp=sharing

Re: What's the best system for me... CatBrat #333466 01/05/11 01:58 AM Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. Adrian axiomite Adrian axiomite Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 6,928 It's all about the location. Those in-cabinet speakers are really meant for false walls or walls with rear access(thru-wall) into an adjacent room. Half of communication is listening. You can't listen with your mouth.

Re: What system is best for me... cgalland #333476 01/05/11 03:41 AM Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,654 JohnK shareholder in the making JohnK shareholder in the making Joined: May 2002 Posts: 10,654 Chuck, welcome. Yes, a little more detail about the "hole" in the wall might help us in making suggestions. Recessing a speaker into an opening isn't generally a good idea. ----------------------------------- Enjoy the music, not the equipment.

Re: What system is best for me... JohnK #333482 01/05/11 04:27 AM Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,877 Tulsa, Oklahoma terzaghi connoisseur terzaghi connoisseur Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,877 Tulsa, Oklahoma Also, once you get your axioms I doubt you will Want to listen to the in ceiling speakers.... -David

Re: What's the best system for me... cgalland #333496 01/05/11 01:56 PM Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada C cgalland OP regular OP cgalland regular C Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada here is the picture of the set up

Re: What's the best system for me... cgalland #333498 01/05/11 02:41 PM Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy CatBrat axiomite CatBrat axiomite Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy Looks like we're also going to need the dimensions of the 3 holes. Height, Width, and depth. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...amp;usp=sharing

Re: What's the best system for me... CatBrat #333499 01/05/11 02:44 PM Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island (too easy) ::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::

Re: What's the best system for me... MarkSJohnson #333505 01/05/11 03:24 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada bdpf aficionado bdpf aficionado Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada AhAh! Bruno M80s/VP180/QS8s/EP600/AVR-890 ------------------------------------ "The problem is choice..."

Re: What's the best system for me... Adrian #333511 01/05/11 03:58 PM Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,270 Toronto/New York/parry Sound alan connoisseur alan connoisseur Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,270 Toronto/New York/parry Sound Hi, Actually if the hole in Chuck's wall is tall enough and wide enough, it might be a good application for the in-cabinet M60. The in-cabinet models are all front-ported so you don't have the issue of the ports venting in the back and you'd only need wire access to the speaker binding posts in the rear for initial connection. http://www.axiomaudio.com/m60-in-cabinet.html Regards, Alan Alan Lofft, Axiom Resident Expert (Retired)

Re: What's the best system for me... alan #333515 01/05/11 04:27 PM Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 16,441 Felton, California pmbuko shareholder in the making pmbuko shareholder in the making Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 16,441 Felton, California I love how the in-cabinet Axiom towers look absolutely appalled by whatever it is they're seeing.

Re: What's the best system for me... pmbuko #333531 01/05/11 06:38 PM Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,056 Arlington, VA (NOVA) Capn_Pickard connoisseur Capn_Pickard connoisseur Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,056 Arlington, VA (NOVA) I'm thinking M60 in cabinet, per Alan. That center hole looks too small for the 150. Definitely hit the QS8 for surrounds. I'll leave the sub decision to the bassheads. Pull the trigger. Be done. Get on with enjoying the sound.

Re: What's the best system for me... Capn_Pickard #333532 01/05/11 06:39 PM Joined: May 2003 Posts: 18,044 NoVA Ken.C shareholder in the making Ken.C shareholder in the making Joined: May 2003 Posts: 18,044 NoVA Yeah, that looks ideal for in cab. Personally, I'd like a little more separation for my mains, but hey, what do you do. Not like my setup is ideal... I am the Doctor, and THIS... is my SPOON!

Re: What's the best system for me... Ken.C #333568 01/05/11 10:09 PM Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,786 Canada fredk axiomite fredk axiomite Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 7,786 Canada That's priceless Peter! Fred ------- Blujays1: Spending Fred's money one bottle at a time, no two... Oh crap!

Re: What's the best system for me... alan #333681 01/06/11 07:32 PM Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 41 D donlboy buff donlboy buff D Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 41 Are the in-cabinet speakers meant to set on a shelf? I don't see any other mounting provisions. Don

Re: What's the best system for me... donlboy #333684 01/06/11 07:39 PM Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy CatBrat axiomite CatBrat axiomite Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy Because of their weight, they need to be sitting on a shelf of some sort and mounted flush with the wall. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...amp;usp=sharing

Re: What's the best system for me... CatBrat #333688 01/06/11 07:46 PM Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,466 Western Maryland, USA ClubNeon connoisseur ClubNeon connoisseur Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,466 Western Maryland, USA There is a lip all the way around the front, so they can't sit completely even with the floor. The support shelf has to be at least a couple inches up. Pioneer PDP-5020FD, Marantz SR6011 Axiom M5HP, VP160HP, QS8 Sony PS4, surround backs -Chris

Re: What's the best system for me... ClubNeon #333705 01/06/11 08:37 PM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta J jakewash shareholder in the making jakewash shareholder in the making J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta Definitely in-cabinet speakers for those holes, M60's look like they might fi, if not in-cab M22's will fit nicely and the center would need to be an in-cab VP150(size?) or IMO, better yet an incab vertical M2 Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70

Re: What's the best system for me... Ken.C #333737 01/07/11 12:44 AM Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,877 Tulsa, Oklahoma terzaghi connoisseur terzaghi connoisseur Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,877 Tulsa, Oklahoma Ken, I was thinking that the mains are pretty close together as well. But like you said, what can you do... -David

Re: What's the best system for me... terzaghi #333772 01/07/11 02:21 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada bdpf aficionado bdpf aficionado Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada When they're that close, is even a center channel necessary? Bruno M80s/VP180/QS8s/EP600/AVR-890 ------------------------------------ "The problem is choice..."

Re: What's the best system for me... terzaghi #333773 01/07/11 02:21 PM Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,270 Toronto/New York/parry Sound alan connoisseur alan connoisseur Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,270 Toronto/New York/parry Sound Yeah, I agree, way too close for decent separation at normal viewing distances. He could get good stereo separation if he sits really close to that monitor, so let's hope it's 1080p. Later on, adding an extra pair of "stereo wide" speakers outboard to the holes would help a lot in broadening the stereo image. Alan Alan Lofft, Axiom Resident Expert (Retired)

Re: What's the best system for me... alan #334167 01/11/11 01:38 PM Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada C cgalland OP regular OP cgalland regular C Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada Back from business trip, here are the holes dimentions: 15.25 deep (i can remove the drywall to add another 0.5inch) 8.75 wide (again i can remove the drywall on each side to ad 1.0inch) 38.25 height (i can remove the drywall and the upper 2x4 structure to accomodate the M60 in cab) so i think that my final conclusion is that i will go with the M60 in cab, the VP150 in/on wall, the QS8 and the EP 500. I will probably get a set of M3 outdoor at the same time. thanks you all for your help!

Re: What's the best system for me... cgalland #334170 01/11/11 02:27 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada bdpf aficionado bdpf aficionado Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada I think you'll be very happy with your choice. Post some pics when you're done! It's not often that we get to see a in cab installation Bruno M80s/VP180/QS8s/EP600/AVR-890 ------------------------------------ "The problem is choice..."

Re: What's the best system for me... bdpf #334181 01/11/11 04:33 PM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta J jakewash shareholder in the making jakewash shareholder in the making J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta Definitely need to see some pics once those are installed Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70

Re: What's the best system for me... jakewash #334223 01/12/11 03:11 AM Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada C cgalland OP regular OP cgalland regular C Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada I just order them thought JC at Axiom. I will pick them up next week at the factory I will put some pictures as soon as I have those installed! Thanks again for your help!

Re: What's the best system for me... cgalland #334225 01/12/11 03:23 AM Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,877 Tulsa, Oklahoma terzaghi connoisseur terzaghi connoisseur Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,877 Tulsa, Oklahoma Do you get a discount for picking them up? -David

Re: What's the best system for me... terzaghi #334226 01/12/11 03:31 AM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada bdpf aficionado bdpf aficionado Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada It used to be 5% last year when I picked up mine. Bruno M80s/VP180/QS8s/EP600/AVR-890 ------------------------------------ "The problem is choice..."

Re: What's the best system for me... bdpf #334257 01/12/11 05:13 PM Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,877 Tulsa, Oklahoma terzaghi connoisseur terzaghi connoisseur Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,877 Tulsa, Oklahoma cool.. Always wondered how that would work. -David

Re: What's the best system for me... cgalland #335432 01/23/11 08:53 PM Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada C cgalland OP regular OP cgalland regular C Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada I went to pick up the speakers last week. I did installed everything Wednesday. Will post pic soon. I didn't have the time to calibrate everything but so far, I'm impressed by the system. I bought M60 in cab, VP150 in cab, QS8 and EP500. I also purchased M3 outdoor but I will wait for this spring to install them since it's -20C outside this past week Thanks again for your help in choosing my new system! Axiom rock!

Re: What's the best system for me... cgalland #335434 01/23/11 09:49 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada bdpf aficionado bdpf aficionado Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada I'm glad it all worked out. This must be a great looking installation. Enjoy the music! Bruno M80s/VP180/QS8s/EP600/AVR-890 ------------------------------------ "The problem is choice..."

Re: What's the best system for me... bdpf #335437 01/23/11 10:35 PM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta J jakewash shareholder in the making jakewash shareholder in the making J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 10,420 Calgary, Alberta Looking forward to those pics. Jason M80 v2 VP160 v3 QS8 v2 PB13 Ultra Denon 3808 Samsung 85" Q70

Re: What's the best system for me... jakewash #336356 01/30/11 04:22 PM Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada bdpf aficionado bdpf aficionado Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 769 Toronto, Canada Any pics yet Bruno M80s/VP180/QS8s/EP600/AVR-890 ------------------------------------ "The problem is choice..."

Re: What's the best system for me... cgalland #368325 02/29/12 09:39 PM Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada C cgalland OP regular OP cgalland regular C Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 7 Québec, Canada Sorry it took so long. here is one picture taken recently i will take a better one tonight

Re: What's the best system for me... cgalland #368326 02/29/12 09:42 PM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,488 Tacoma T tomtuttle axiomite tomtuttle axiomite T Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,488 Tacoma Wonderful! bibere usque ad hilaritatem

Re: What's the best system for me... cgalland #368329 02/29/12 10:18 PM Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,181 Likes: 1 Ottawa, Canada cb919 connoisseur cb919 connoisseur Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,181 Likes: 1 Ottawa, Canada Very clean - nice! Dan On-Wall M5HP LCR, QS8 & EP500 in 7.1

Re: What's the best system for me... cb919 #368331 02/29/12 11:03 PM Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 946 Likes: 2 Delta, BC, Canada Rock_Head aficionado Rock_Head aficionado Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 946 Likes: 2 Delta, BC, Canada That look's great.

Re: What's the best system for me... cgalland #368335 02/29/12 11:55 PM Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 20 Madison, WI justinwacker hobbyist justinwacker hobbyist Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 20 Madison, WI That looks very cool. Hope it sounds great, too. Pan TH-50PZ800U Onkyo TX-SR805 Axiom M80 (2) Axiom VP180 Axiom QS8 (2) Axiom EP500 PS3, Harmony One