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Re: Subwoofer wiring question for Porterplex V3
SirQuack #334590 01/16/11 06:21 AM
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Randy, unless there's a point that I missed, I don't see what's "cobbled" about using F to RCA adaptors with the F type wall plates that you saw at HD. MonoPrice and others do have RCA wall plates, but I don't see where you should bother.

On the question about receivers with two sub outputs, most don't allow for separately calibrating the outputs for different sub level and distance. Even the few that do provide for separately calibrating the two outputs still are working with just the same .1 channel carrying the same source material, not a totally separate sub channel.


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Re: Subwoofer wiring question for Porterplex V3
SirQuack #334595 01/16/11 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: sirquack
You are correct, most of the receivers with two jacks are no different than using a y adapter as it is the same signal. Some of the higher end receivers coming out with the latest setup calibration offerings, are now incorporating 2 or more seperate subwoofer channels.


My Onkyo 3007 I got in Oct 2009 has two separately calibrate-able subwoofer outputs and I don’t consider it high end. I believe the 1007 does also and can be had for under $1K. I have even seen the 3007 occasionally under that price.


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grunt #334597 01/16/11 01:11 PM
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How many subs do you have now?
Plus an Ep800?

I want to come watch star wars at your place when it hits bluray!


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terzaghi #334598 01/16/11 01:31 PM
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I only have one EP500. My other sub is a Buttkicker which goes way lower than the EP800, 5Hz, with authority. One of my Buttkicker demo scenes is the opening to Star Wars III and your right I can’t wait till it comes out on Blu-ray. Already preordered mine.

I tried multiple subwoofers I borrowed from Sean but found that in my oddly shaped room that I couldn’t find any multi-sub configuration that didn’t perform worse than a single sub in the best location. So now I EQ instead thanks to Charles.


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Re: Subwoofer wiring question for Porterplex V3
terzaghi #334599 01/16/11 01:37 PM
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Randy,

Yea, I would definitely run separate sub cables all around just to "future proof" your room.

When you upgrade your avr, just make sure you get the newest "Sub HT EQ" described here

The newest "Sub HT EQ" by audyssey is only available with the latest MultiXT 32, which indeed calibrates 2 subs and as of now are only available from Denon, Onkyo, and Integra.

If I had another sub for my Onkyo 3008, I could give you more info about the newest Sub HT EQ. frown

There are many over at avs that are using the new Sub ht eq with "4 subs" and just rave about the results. Most have already sold their separate discrete SVS AS-EQ1 sub eq as MULTIXT32 and SUBHTEQ are giving them the same/better results. Seems to be pretty impressive.

I personally have never been happier than I am with my Onkyo 3008. MultiXT 32 is really something to behold.


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Re: Subwoofer wiring question for Porterplex V3
Dduval #334600 01/16/11 02:32 PM
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Randy whenever I ran the coax for the six subwoofer locations in our room I ran a separate run of coax from the component wall plate out to each subwoofer location and terminated the wall plates with female F connectors and then had a local A/V store make me some cables that were terminated with male F connectors on one end and male RCA connectors on the other.

I opted to go with individual runs of coax for each subwoofer location because it kept the in-wall connections down to a minimum in the event that a connection or a cable somehow goes bad in the future and thus saving my old ass from trying to trace a bad connection that only god knows where it may be. With individual runs you'll know exactly where to look in case a connection decides to turn south on you. Whenever I built our room, I bought a 1000' spool of quad shielded RG6 coax through the same A/V store and although I can't remember the exact cost I do remember that it didn't break the bank.

Here's the cables I had made up from the same spool...


And an individual wall plate...



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Re: Subwoofer wiring question for Porterplex V3
RickF #334611 01/16/11 06:51 PM
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Thanks guys! Yeah Rick, I will most likely do what you said, just run seperate runs to each location and only have one jack per plate, versus trying to daisy chain plates. The reason I was considering this is because 2 of the walls you can't run cableing. We have Ice Block form/concrete/foam foundation on the exterior walls. Benefit is you don't have to frame the interior basement walls, bad thing is you can't run cableing. So, I was just going to do an onwall solution.

down to work, talk to you later.


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Re: Subwoofer wiring question for Porterplex V3
SirQuack #334631 01/17/11 01:00 AM
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That is some pretty nice looking cable rick.

Dean, for some reason I thought you had an ep800... not sure why. Now that you metion it I'd love to see a movie with good LFE with some butt kickers in action.


-David
Re: Subwoofer wiring question for Porterplex V3
terzaghi #334634 01/17/11 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted By: terzaghi
That is some pretty nice looking cable rick.

Dean, for some reason I thought you had an ep800... not sure why. Now that you metion it I'd love to see a movie with good LFE with some butt kickers in action.


Works for me if you’re ever in the area.

I’ve tried to use the JedI Mind Trick to get Charles to give me one of his but the force is strong with him.


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Re: Subwoofer wiring question for Porterplex V3
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