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#337476 - 02/08/11 08:20 AM QS8s, M22s or M2s for heights
Glitchy Offline
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Registered: 01/28/10
Posts: 578
Loc: Blueridge Foothills, NC
Well I finally ordered and received a Onkyo 3008 last week. With 9.2 a possiblity and height / wide options I ordered 2 more M22s in/on's for wides and 2 more QS8s for heights.

I currently have M22 in/on's for fronts, W150/W100 for center, QS8s for sides and QS8s for rears.

Currently the 3008 only does wides or fronts plus 7.2, but there is a rumored firmware update (reliable source) that the heights/wides can be used at the same time.

So for now I'm keeping the rear QS8s because you can quickly switch between heights or wides + 7'2 with a button on the remote for comparison.

Based on some of Grunt's posts a while back I went with QS8s for heights. Already ordered 1 1/2 weeks ago(but not shipped).

Now I'm second guessing myself because Audyssey recommends direct radiators for heights. So M22/M2 or QS8s for heights?

Any thoughts?

Thanks

Jeff




Edited by wordgasm (02/08/11 08:23 AM)
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Fronts/Wides:M22s in/on
Center:VP150/VP100 in/on
Hghts,SS,SR:QS8s
Sub:EP500
AVR:Onkyo 3008

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#337483 - 02/08/11 09:17 AM Re: QS8s, M22s or M2s for heights [Re: Glitchy]
grunt Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 3569
Loc: Nirvana
Quote:

Now I'm second guessing myself because Audyssey recommends direct radiators for heights. So M22/M2 or QS8s for heights?


Hi Jeff,

Audyssey recommends direct radiators for all positions so you had better second guess your surrounds and rears then also. wink This is because their EQ system is better at calculating a curve for a direct radiating speaker because it’s much simpler to model than the variety of di/bi pole configurations available.

Recently another member, HuskerOmaha, got this response from Chris at Audyssey when he asked about using direct radiators or bipole speakers for heights:

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=333226#Post333226

Bottom line is that if you prefer QS8 style speakers for the surround and rear positions over direct radiators then I’m 99.9% sure you will also prefer them for height speakers since height speakers project only ambient and not direct sound effects.

In other words buy the best speaker for the job and then apply EQ. Don’t buy an EQ system and then seek to match your speakers to it.

Cheers,
Dean
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#337485 - 02/08/11 09:53 AM Re: QS8s, M22s or M2s for heights [Re: grunt]
Glitchy Offline
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Registered: 01/28/10
Posts: 578
Loc: Blueridge Foothills, NC
Originally Posted By: grunt
Quote:

Now I'm second guessing myself because Audyssey recommends direct radiators for heights. So M22/M2 or QS8s for heights?


Hi Jeff,

Audyssey recommends direct radiators for all positions so you had better second guess your surrounds and rears then also. wink This is because their EQ system is better at calculating a curve for a direct radiating speaker because it’s much simpler to model than the variety of di/bi pole configurations available.

Recently another member, HuskerOmaha, got this response from Chris at Audyssey when he asked about using direct radiators or bipole speakers for heights:

http://www.axiomaudio.com/boards/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=333226#Post333226

Bottom line is that if you prefer QS8 style speakers for the surround and rear positions over direct radiators then I’m 99.9% sure you will also prefer them for height speakers since height speakers project only ambient and not direct sound effects.

In other words buy the best speaker for the job and then apply EQ. Don’t buy an EQ system and then seek to match your speakers to it.

Cheers,
Dean



Thanks I made the rright decision then. Just wanted to get "backup" smile

I'm anxious to hear the heights and wides... from what I read you don't notice a big diff with the heights when you first hook them up... but then if you turn them off you can't live without them ("the wall of sound")

Wides, I don't really have the proper room width for them but it should be some improvement... we shall see! hear!

Thanks
Jeff


Edited by wordgasm (02/08/11 09:54 AM)
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Fronts/Wides:M22s in/on
Center:VP150/VP100 in/on
Hghts,SS,SR:QS8s
Sub:EP500
AVR:Onkyo 3008

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#337511 - 02/08/11 12:14 PM Re: QS8s, M22s or M2s for heights [Re: Glitchy]
tomtuttle Offline
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Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8305
Loc: Tacoma
Congrats, Jeff. That's gonna be an even greater system. Would love to hear it some day.
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#337524 - 02/08/11 12:58 PM Re: QS8s, M22s or M2s for heights [Re: tomtuttle]
Glitchy Offline
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Registered: 01/28/10
Posts: 578
Loc: Blueridge Foothills, NC
Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
Congrats, Jeff. That's gonna be an even greater system. Would love to hear it some day.


Thanks TT!

Spent the last months on the HTPC, servers and extenders.

Build a new Sandy Bridge 2600K 12gb SSD HTPC, moved all the media to the HTPC off the server (i know, long story),

so now I have a HTPC with 21TB of movie storage, 4TB Recorded TV storage, 3TB of recorded tv movies storage and 1TB for music and photos.

"I know ... who could listen/watch all that! It's the journey not the destination"

So with that behind me ... it's time to concentrate on audio expansion, audio calibration, then video calibration. Then maybe some movie watchin' & music listenin'

Then I'll get to the real work, remodel the media room and finish the AV rack.

My little 3 month HTPC/AV rack project has turned into a 2 year monster... that I've (for the most part) totally enjoyed.

Your welcome to a listen anytime your in Western NC (and give me time to tidy up the project(s) messes! smile

Thanks again
Jeff


Edited by wordgasm (02/08/11 01:41 PM)
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Fronts/Wides:M22s in/on
Center:VP150/VP100 in/on
Hghts,SS,SR:QS8s
Sub:EP500
AVR:Onkyo 3008

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#337533 - 02/08/11 01:17 PM Re: QS8s, M22s or M2s for heights [Re: Glitchy]
tomtuttle Offline
axiomite

Registered: 06/20/03
Posts: 8305
Loc: Tacoma
29TB?!?!

You're insane.
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#337544 - 02/08/11 01:51 PM Re: QS8s, M22s or M2s for heights [Re: Glitchy]
ClubNeon Offline
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Registered: 02/06/09
Posts: 3452
Loc: Western Maryland, USA
How many drives do you have on the Sandy Bridge machine? Do you know about the disk corruption that's occurring with the 3 Gb SATA interfaces? Only the first two, 6 Gb SATA ports can be used without data loss being likely.

Edit: More specifically, boards featuring Intel's P67 and H67 chipsets.


Edited by ClubNeon (02/08/11 01:55 PM)
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Sony PS3, surround backs
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#337553 - 02/08/11 02:07 PM Re: QS8s, M22s or M2s for heights [Re: ClubNeon]
Ken.C Offline
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Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17809
Loc: NoVA
That's all Sandy Bridges at this point. There ain't no other chipsets...
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#337554 - 02/08/11 02:08 PM Re: QS8s, M22s or M2s for heights [Re: Ken.C]
ClubNeon Offline
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Registered: 02/06/09
Posts: 3452
Loc: Western Maryland, USA
Intel is once again allowing machines to be released with the defective chips, but only two SATA ports enabled.
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Pioneer VSX-1018AH-K, PDP-5020FD, DV-79AVi
Axiom M22s, VP150, QS8s
Sony PS3, surround backs
-Chris

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#337556 - 02/08/11 02:14 PM Re: QS8s, M22s or M2s for heights [Re: ClubNeon]
grunt Offline
connoisseur

Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 3569
Loc: Nirvana
Originally Posted By: ClubNeon
Intel is once again allowing machines to be released with the defective chips, but only two SATA ports enabled.


Thanks that’s good to know.
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