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#345988 - 04/24/11 09:11 PM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: ClubNeon]
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Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 2726
Loc: CA, USA
That's a nice system you have there CN. Your Pioneer Elite Universal Player has those "fancy" analog outs. They work very well with high resolution formats - SACD and DVD Audio. I take it you don't use the SACD or DVD-A capabilities of your Pioneer.

Oppo makes some great universal players. Enjoy your system and your faith. Go in peace, and as to that fancy Pioneer, sin no more.
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#345993 - 04/24/11 10:11 PM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: 2x6spds]
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Registered: 02/06/09
Posts: 3448
Loc: Western Maryland, USA
Yeah, I got it for the analog outs when I had an old Sony receiver with only a S/PDIF connection. Now that I've got a receiver with up to date technology, I use the HDMI connection. Except it doesn't do SACD over HDMI (only DVD-Audio), but my first gen PS3 does DSD->LPCM. So I've still got my bases covered.
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#346000 - 04/24/11 11:46 PM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: ClubNeon]
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Loc: CA, USA
Interesting. I picked up an Onkyo TXNR 1007 for the HDMI - Bluray connection. The 1007 has the analog in array. I picked up a used Sony NS999ES SACD player - pre HDMI - connected all the fancy analog cables (thanks lampshade for the tip for those beautiful natural fiber insulated interconnects) and could not get the 1007 and the Sony to output SACD. I may have to read the manual.
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#346001 - 04/25/11 12:13 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: 2x6spds]
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Posts: 1161
Loc: Holbrook, MA
I like banana fiber the best.
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#346002 - 04/25/11 12:20 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: 2x6spds]
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Registered: 04/02/03
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Loc: Leesburg, Virginia
If you must know, 2x6, I am still using the first receiver I ever purchased, an Onkyo TX-DS575 that I got from uBid.com in the early 2000s when they were still alive. It doesn't even do DPLII. I also have a Sony DVD/SACD/CD player that I got from my brother. I use it for both movies and music. I also use my iPod/iPhone/iPad as a music source when I want a large variety of music.

I no longer use my Onkyo 6-disc CD-changer. I should list it.
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#346004 - 04/25/11 12:23 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: Lampshade]
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Registered: 03/16/02
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Loc: CA, USA
Originally Posted By: Lampaxiom
I like banana fiber the best.


When the space aliens come, Lampaxiom, it will be for the bananas... and they will take them.
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#346007 - 04/25/11 02:25 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: pmbuko]
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Registered: 03/16/02
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Loc: CA, USA
Originally Posted By: pmbuko
If you must know, 2x6, I am still using the first receiver I ever purchased, an Onkyo TX-DS575 that I got from uBid.com in the early 2000s when they were still alive. It doesn't even do DPLII. I also have a Sony DVD/SACD/CD player that I got from my brother. I use it for both movies and music. I also use my iPod/iPhone/iPad as a music source when I want a large variety of music.

I no longer use my Onkyo 6-disc CD-changer. I should list it.


I wonder where UBID got their product from. They sold some incredible gear at ridiculous prices. I paid $19 a speaker for a gaggle of Michaura M55s, $165 each for the M665s, $200 for a $2,000 msrp Toshiba SD9200 DVD Audio player, $100 for a Parasound 2 channel preamp, $400 for a $2,000 msrp Philips SACD1000 ...

Anyway, that's a very nice system you have there, and sure enough, your gear is true to your philosophy.

Good on ya.
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#346012 - 04/25/11 09:07 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: 2x6spds]
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Registered: 03/23/10
Posts: 3113
Loc: Massachusetts Badlands
Originally Posted By: 2x6spds
The orthodox mob here (you'll know them by the number of posts - 8,000 plus) believe as an article of faith that there is no difference in sound quality among different solid state amps.

Although it may appear to be a bizarre article of faith, nevertheless, it is central to the mantra of these true believers. They mock people who disagree with them. You may notice that on many occasions they are the only members on the board. They do not usually post alone, but in series. They have managed to reduce the traffic on this site to almost zero, but they have accomplished their goal of keeping out the riff raff who disagree with them. Yes, the faithful here share the true faith. Here are the tenets you must believe:

1. The only component which effects sound quality is the speaker and as to that, Axioms are the best.

2. All solid state amps (well designed) of similar power output sound identical.

3. All tube amplifiers are merely distortion generators.

4. All digital audio sources (DVD, CD) perfectly reproduce sound quality since the data consists only of 1's and 0's.

5. All Cables and interconnects of sufficient gauge sound identical.

Now, if you disagree with any of these tenets of the one true audio faith, you are subject to a lecture from he who knows it all, hi John, snarky insults from the sarcastic sycophant, hi there pmb, or their clack of flacks, hey Jake.

Govern your conduct accordingly.

As for me, I just felt a bit sarcastic today myself.



Bitter. Party of one? Your table is ready.
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#346021 - 04/25/11 10:41 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: BobKay]
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Registered: 03/16/02
Posts: 2726
Loc: CA, USA
That's the problem when a small group takes over a site. These forums used to have many participants who discussed their audio preferences, observations and points of view.

Now, we have very few participants, but what we lost in quantity and quality we have gained in conformity. Sure, the few true believers here sure do post a lot, like you PopeBob - why I see you're a thousand posts a year man. Good work. What you don't seem to get is that this is not such a friendly site anymore. It does not welcome folks who do not subscribe to the true audio faith, and a handful of folks with too much time on their hands, who post more than a thousand times a year each is not the same as an active forum.

Indeed, the faithful have all but shut this place down. So, PopeBob, thanks for the table for one, but the restaurant is just about empty.
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#346023 - 04/25/11 10:49 AM Re: Best longterm budget upgrade poweramp for m22ti [Re: 2x6spds]
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Registered: 09/27/04
Posts: 10829
Loc: Central NH
Se let me prove your theory: Don't like it? Leave!

I started writing a long diatribe back to you, but just erased it. Ultimately, YOU'RE the troll who feels that anyone that disagrees with you simply subscribes to groupthink, when instead, it just so happens that many people feel differently than you.

Find a home where others think as you do, and stop telling us we're mindless and stupid because we disagree with you.

You're tiresome, 2x6. You play nice for awhile, then randomly go on the attack when you feel that you're not getting people into a similar groupthink mode as yourself.
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