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Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
BlueJays1 #346788 05/01/11 03:26 PM
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Like i said, I will check all the wireing, pull it all apart and redo it. Then i will test with the Advents. I'm rather hesitant, to test anymore with the Onkyo, for fear of doing damage.

If the M80's both work at a lower volume...say about 50 watts or less(acording to the meters) I'm not sure, what good it would do to test 1 speakers at a time, plus probably do the amp no good.

Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
BlueJays1 #346789 05/01/11 03:27 PM
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i run a QSX GX5 with my M80's; the GX5 is designed for 4 Ohms minimum, but not for 2 Ohms, unless you use it at low power levels.

As far as i can hear, my GX5 sounds exactly the same as the Hafler 500 i have been using for 25 years (never suffered from "upgraditis" before 2011).

if you want to buy a pro amp, just be wary of the Crown XLS 1000; the noise floor is not low enough.


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Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
J. B. #346790 05/01/11 03:33 PM
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If the amp trips always at a certain point on the dial, that sounds more like a short.

An amp shutting down because it can't handle the reactive load of the speaker, I think would be more random and depend on the source material, volume and how long the material was being played for.






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Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
BlueJays1 #346792 05/01/11 03:56 PM
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It's not going to hurt the amp to run one speaker at a time.


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Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
Ken.C #346797 05/01/11 04:48 PM
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Something is very wrong there bob. I've never seen 50 watts on the output meters of my M504. 50 watts would be enough power to blow your eardrums, cause the neighbors to call the police and prompt the wife to leave with the kids.


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bobt #346798 05/01/11 04:49 PM
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A little off this thread but there is a TFM 55 Carver on e-bay.
380 W at 8ohm
600 W at 4ohm
650 W at 2ohm
Sorry to go on about these amps but they are clear & powerfull.


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Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
Ken.C #346800 05/01/11 05:08 PM
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Well the 50 watts was a guess, about were the meters are,(which are probably not that acurate) but it is pretty ramdom, and source dependent, not really volume dial dependent, per say. You just can't push the source TOO much.

J Bellemare, that was the exact amp i was considering. If you say it will push the M80's...to LOUD volumes,(like concert volume) with no problems. Plus you really don't hear a difference between it and your old Hafler..works for me.

I will double check all the wires. In fact i will not change them, just check and put the Advents on there. If there is a short, the Advents should shut down the amp also. But i don't think that will be the case.

Re: The M80's just got here....the AMP will not work
bobt #346801 05/01/11 05:16 PM
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2X6..like i said that was a guess...those meter readings get very compressed, so there hard to read. Yeah it was pretty loud. But the amp has been played ALOT louder with no problems.

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bobt #346802 05/01/11 05:23 PM
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If there is a problem with the M80's, playing your advents will not rule out a short but only that of the cabling.

Being that you are unwilling to see if there is an actual problem/defect with the M80's buy another amp to test with them.


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bobt #346803 05/01/11 05:28 PM
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The only reason i picked the QSC, is i can get 1 new from Musicains Friend, have it in a couple of days. 30 day try out. I've done alot of buisness with them before. If for some reason it is the M80's, and they toast the QSC... I can just send it back to them, say it was no good out of the box. They will just send my money back no questions.

Better to blow the QSC, then my Onkyo.

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