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#354208 - 09/07/11 05:29 PM iTunes Question
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Any iTunes gurus out there? And if so, do you understand how Genius works? A friend was noticing that Genius wasn't available for the classic 1976 Fleetwood Mac track "Rhiannon" (Brent, some of us still listen to Fleetwood Mac!). I thought it might be because the album he had wasn't on iTunes, but we had "Greatest Hits" which is available on iTunes. We couldn't start a Genius with that track either, but we could with another song from the same album.

Soo . . . is it just that nobody else ever created a playlist and transmitted their personal data freely to the Genius servers, or . . . how does that work exactly?
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#354219 - 09/07/11 07:12 PM Re: iTunes Question [Re: Amie]
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Seems like Ken or Peter should know.

It's a treat to see your post, Amie.
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#354222 - 09/07/11 07:21 PM Re: iTunes Question [Re: tomtuttle]
Amie Offline
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Thanks for the warm welcome Tom! And of course, I can't let your excellent avatar go unremarked - always a great choice! Nice to see you too!
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#354258 - 09/08/11 12:04 AM Re: iTunes Question [Re: Amie]
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Amie, great to hear from you again, although I know zero about iTunes and can't offer any advice.
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#354264 - 09/08/11 12:54 AM Re: iTunes Question [Re: Amie]
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iTunes can be finicky. You can force Genius to update by choosing that option from the Store menu. If you still can't make a playlist based on that song, then maybe Steve Jobs hated Fleetwood Mac.
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#354267 - 09/08/11 05:51 AM Re: iTunes Question [Re: pmbuko]
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Hello John - great to hear from you too!

Peter, I tried forcing an update. I even tried disabling and re-enabling Genius to *really* force an update, but still no joy. I'd understand hating all Fleetwood Mac, but to cherry-pick in this manner seems especially odd. Tested one of Ian's "Faces" albums (think Rod Stewart) and the same phenomenon existed - it would create a recommendation for "Cigarettes and Alcohol" but not for "Ooh La La". It would be interesting to find out how that algorithm works.
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#354302 - 09/08/11 03:05 PM Re: iTunes Question [Re: Amie]
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I was curious and tried it myself. You'll see my results were similar:

Just choose any other Fleetwood Mac song and you'll likely get to the same place. Except for Second Hand News. Seriously. What were they thinking? laugh
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#354304 - 09/08/11 03:12 PM Re: iTunes Question [Re: pmbuko]
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Did you just put the song Second Hand News in my head? Gaahhh!! Where's the penalty button?
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#354481 - 09/10/11 09:33 PM Re: iTunes Question [Re: Amie]
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Hi Amie! Did you kick the kids out of the house and have some free time now? smile

I really do not like I-tunes, but am forced to use it as I use an I-Pod for my rigs. I-Tunes makes me feel violated for some reason…..

I do not have the patience to create play lists, so I rely solely on the Genius function. I have no idea how it works. I thought Apple might have a bunch of a bored kids sitting around coffee shops creating play lists whenever someone hit the genius button, and they just don’t have any taste, but suspect that’s not really how it works.

I do know that some artists have restrictions on their music and have boycotted Apple in one way or another. AC/DC comes to mind…. Their newer “re mastered” CD’s that I have will not allow me to use the genius function, or the genius function won’t work with them….whichever way that works.
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#354514 - 09/11/11 05:39 PM Re: iTunes Question [Re: michael_d]
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I've used numerous media players, including iTunes, which was my primary player for years until I found MediaMonkey . In my opinion, i-Tunes is junk, and MediaMonkey is by far the best.

I'd still use it but unfortunately it's not compatible with Zune's, but you can sync i-Pods etc. to it. Maybe an alternative Mike and Amie?

Peace,
Cam
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