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#354942 - 09/16/11 05:56 PM Re: The Pet Peeve thread...... [Re: Ray3]
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Registered: 02/02/04
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Originally Posted By: Ray3
Originally Posted By: BobKay
Pet Peeve words:

Ecscape
Nucular
Orientated
Aks
Incidentses
Artic
"I" when it should be "me"
and Vice Versa
Heighth
Impacted
Pro-Active
Vanella
So don't I
Concerted (when refering to one's own effort)
Irregardless
Historical (when it's "historic")
Expresso


So I'm looking at this list and wondering why "It's a mute point" is missing.

And why does ANYTHING follow the phrase - "It goes without saying...".


More pet peeve words:

"Affect" when it should be "effect" - and vice versa.

"Bring" when it should be "take". Vice versa doesn't usually happen here.

"Proctologist" for many reasons, including the fact that they chose to be one on purpose.

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#354957 - 09/17/11 08:57 AM Re: The Pet Peeve thread...... [Re: pmbuko]
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Registered: 12/30/03
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Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
Originally Posted By: pmbuko
Wellness includes mental state, I think. You can be healthy as an ox at the same time as you're suffering from depression, but you wouldn't have wellness.

I respectfully disagree. To me, health is health. You can break that down into physical, mental, emotional, etc., but if you're healthy, you're healthy.

The Free Dictionary
Health: 1. The overall condition of an organism at a given time.
Wellness: The state of being in good physical and mental health

Merriam-Webster
Health: The condition of being sound in body, mind, or spirit
Wellness: The quality or state of being in good health especially as an actively sought goal.

Unnecessarily Redundant, IMHO.
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#354958 - 09/17/11 09:17 AM Re: The Pet Peeve thread...... [Re: Ajax]
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Loc: Quebec, Canada
i agree with Ajax, health is health.

physical, mental, emotional, etc... it's all different facets of a person.
the often used word "individual" means "that cannot be divided".
if one facet of an individual is not in good health, the other facets will suffer from it and will also not be in good health.

why is it that people who suffer from high stress have ailments like stomach burns?

an individual, or person, is a whole, even in death: the whole person ceases to exist at the moment of death; if anyone thinks or knows otherwise, i want to see proof. This means it's not even open to discussion.


Edited by J. B. (09/17/11 09:19 AM)
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#354968 - 09/17/11 05:12 PM Re: The Pet Peeve thread...... [Re: Ajax]
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Originally Posted By: Ajax
Wellness. Where in the h*ll did that word come from and can anyone please tell me the difference between health and wellness?



Cool, Jack!!

Ask a rhetorical question, let 'em all have their shots, then thwap 'em with not one, but two dictionary definitions!

You rock! (I already knew that.)
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#354969 - 09/17/11 05:31 PM Re: The Pet Peeve thread...... [Re: BobKay]
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No animosity here. Just trying to make my point. Most of the time I'm fine with folks seeing things differently, particularly two good folks like Peter and J.P. smile


Edited by Ajax (09/17/11 05:32 PM)
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#354970 - 09/17/11 05:45 PM Re: The Pet Peeve thread...... [Re: Ajax]
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There are plenty of discussions of health versus wellness online if you look past dictionary definitions. Even if they meant exactly the same thing, though, I'm fine with having more words to have in the bag. Sometimes you want something different phonetically in your phrasing, right?
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#354974 - 09/17/11 08:34 PM Re: The Pet Peeve thread...... [Re: Ajax]
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Wellness: Adj, a state of being

On the home farm we had 3 wells. I was awash in a wealth of wellness.
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#354975 - 09/17/11 10:12 PM Re: The Pet Peeve thread...... [Re: Ajax]
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Registered: 06/23/07
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Loc: Sitting down somewhere
Originally Posted By: Ajax
Originally Posted By: pmbuko
Wellness includes mental state, I think. You can be healthy as an ox at the same time as you're suffering from depression, but you wouldn't have wellness.

I respectfully disagree. To me, health is health. You can break that down into physical, mental, emotional, etc., but if you're healthy, you're healthy.

The Free Dictionary
Health: 1. The overall condition of an organism at a given time.
Wellness: The state of being in good physical and mental health




I think there's a difference in those two definitions when you consider a person with a physical disability, like myself.

Health: 1. The overall condition of an organism at a given time.


Overall, as a quadriplegic, I'm healthy.

Wellness: The state of being in good physical and mental health

Physically, I'm disabled, and as a result, my body doesn't function normally (good health), but my mind does.


I also think this definition is deleterious because someone with downs syndrome can, and do, have wellness.

The lexicographers should take a course in SRV (Social Role Valorization).

My 2 cents.


Edited by Powertothepeople (09/17/11 10:14 PM)
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#354976 - 09/17/11 10:15 PM Re: The Pet Peeve thread...... [Re: Da_Gimp_Pimp]
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I'm glad you clarified what SRV stood for before people steered the thread toward Stevie Ray Vaughan.

Good points, though, Cam.
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#354994 - 09/18/11 11:37 AM Re: The Pet Peeve thread...... [Re: Ajax]
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Originally Posted By: Ajax
No animosity here. Just trying to make my point. Most of the time I'm fine with folks seeing things differently, particularly two good folks like Peter and J.P. smile


I knew that , too!
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