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#362111 - 12/29/11 02:26 AM Re: And Santa Ian comes through..... [Re: bdpf]
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Originally Posted By: bdpf
NOw, that you've had both the VP160 and VP180 in your room, would you say that the off-axis listening on the vP180 is much worst than the VP160?
Not much worse but I do remember The 180 not reaching to my off axis quite as well as the 160 does. Hopefully I will gtg with Bryan(icehawk27) and we can try the 2 at the same time.

I have flipped the 160 so the tweeter is on the bottom which also angles the drivers upward a little to see if this made any difference, I nor Mojo could notice any differences.

Something we did notice was that the VP160 had a little less sibilance than my v2 M80s when we were listening to Diana Krall in PLIIx, I will guess this is the v3 design changes which I must say now makes me want M80v3's; more money I don't have that I want to spend.
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#362118 - 12/29/11 07:49 AM Re: And Santa Ian comes through..... [Re: jakewash]
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Sibilance? How bout purchasing just the V3 tweeters?
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#362123 - 12/29/11 09:22 AM Re: And Santa Ian comes through..... [Re: Spoiler]
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You'd have to do the crossovers as well, I suspect, but it really depends on how old the M80s are. I'm pretty sure that Axiom could tell you based on serial number what parts you've got, although it might take some digging.
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#362134 - 12/29/11 10:42 AM Re: And Santa Ian comes through..... [Re: Ken.C]
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Mojo is still around?
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#362141 - 12/29/11 11:52 AM Re: And Santa Ian comes through..... [Re: terzaghi]
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Mojo is around but not on the forum.

My understanding is that the V3 tweeters and crossovers are required not sure on the drivers. If you recall, there was some talk about offering a v3 package which included all the necessary components and it had all drivers,tweeters and crossover. I don't know if the drivers were included because of the visual change or for another reason.
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#362157 - 12/29/11 04:20 PM Re: And Santa Ian comes through..... [Re: jakewash]
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I remember reading about the V3 package, but if it seems that sibilance is the only difference you hear, then tweeters or tweeters/crossover would be a cheaper alternative to consider.

A big hello to Mojo!!
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#362179 - 12/29/11 11:00 PM Re: And Santa Ian comes through..... [Re: jakewash]
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Originally Posted By: jakewash
Originally Posted By: bdpf
NOw, that you've had both the VP160 and VP180 in your room, would you say that the off-axis listening on the vP180 is much worst than the VP160?
Not much worse but I do remember The 180 not reaching to my off axis quite as well as the 160 does. Hopefully I will gtg with Bryan(icehawk27) and we can try the 2 at the same time.

I have flipped the 160 so the tweeter is on the bottom which also angles the drivers upward a little to see if this made any difference, I nor Mojo could notice any differences.

Something we did notice was that the VP160 had a little less sibilance than my v2 M80s when we were listening to Diana Krall in PLIIx, I will guess this is the v3 design changes which I must say now makes me want M80v3's; more money I don't have that I want to spend.


Maybe that slight increase in sibilance has more to do with the dual tweeter design of the M80s as opposed to the single tweeter in the VP160 and any differences now are a little more noticeable? Maybe I am incorrect here, but from what I have always understood from the guys at Axiom the difference between the V2 and V3 versions was in the smoothness in the mid range, not necessarily any noticeable change in tweeter configuration or sound of the highs.


Edited by casey01 (12/29/11 11:10 PM)

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#362191 - 12/30/11 01:38 AM Re: And Santa Ian comes through..... [Re: casey01]
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Im pretty sure They switched to a larger tweeter and new crossover in the v3s. The tweeter on my v3 vp180 seems larger than on my v2 m80s.
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#362260 - 12/30/11 09:12 PM Re: And Santa Ian comes through..... [Re: terzaghi]
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I am hoping to take a few pics tonight to show you guys the real size of this beast. I placed my VP100 on top of it a couple days ago and it looked tiny.

Mojo couldn't get over the size of the VP160.
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#362262 - 12/30/11 09:29 PM Re: And Santa Ian comes through..... [Re: jakewash]
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Originally Posted By: jakewash
Mojo couldn't get over the size of the VP160.


Jay, if you remember, please tell him that I said hello and wish him and his family a safe, healthy and prosperous new year. Just not too prosperous to the point of being considered the 1 percent (I'm sure he'll smile upon hearing that smile ).

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