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Re: @#&&^! Receiver
JohnK #366461 02/13/12 12:58 PM
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Thanks, John & Ben for the comments on refurbs and Onkyos. Last night, the Yamaha performed flawlessly - all channels playing as they should. If it played that way all the time, I would be happy to stay the course. However, it is like there is a ghost in the machine - so to speak. Besides the channels not playing, I sometimes have what I think are "HDMI Handshake" issues. If I set up to watch TV, all the sound will be coming from the left main - nothing from the center or right. I can usally correct it by hitting another activity on the 880 - like watch DVD - and then switching back watch TV. May not be a handshake issue - may just be the Yamaha not performing correctly? Qui sais? The hurdle is going to be convincing my wife that missing the right main and left back means we need a new receiver.


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Re: @#&&^! Receiver
Argon #366462 02/13/12 01:06 PM
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Just for kicks, did you try unplugging it for the day or see if there is a "reset"?


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Re: @#&&^! Receiver
MarkSJohnson #366468 02/13/12 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
Just for kicks, did you try unplugging it for the day or see if there is a "reset"?

Well....I verbally threatened it with great physical pain but no, I can try that tonight....


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Re: @#&&^! Receiver
Argon #366482 02/13/12 04:23 PM
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HK is not the company is used to be.... Proceed with caution if you are set on buying one. Don't even get me started on Marantz.....

The Onkyo's certainly have a ton of features packed into their boxes at ridiculous price points. But when you look at the top tier models, I think Denon gets the nod.

I tend to prefer Denon, but I did recently order an entry level Onkyo 509 for my mud room. Stupid cheap for the feature set.

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Argon #366490 02/13/12 05:12 PM
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The negative reviews on the Onkyos were all about the HDMI outs failing. Anyone have any bad experiences?


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J. B. #366502 02/13/12 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: J. B.
i got a H/K a few months ago; i'm not using the internal amps, but everything else works fine.


sorry for the mixup; what i got is a Marantz.

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Argon #366506 02/13/12 07:19 PM
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My 706 has been connect to my Sharp LCD via HDMI since day one. No problems, but I will say that the handshaking seems to be a tad on the slow side. But since I've not seen other HDMI receivers in action, I have no real frame of reference. I only know that switching inputs takes a few seconds. No big deal, really.

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Kruncher #366510 02/13/12 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted By: Kruncher
My 706 has been connect to my Sharp LCD via HDMI since day one. No problems, but I will say that the handshaking seems to be a tad on the slow side. But since I've not seen other HDMI receivers in action, I have no real frame of reference. I only know that switching inputs takes a few seconds. No big deal, really.

It would not be a big deal if it was a few seconds as long as it makes the switch. The issue that I experience is the sound is not coming out of the correct speakers. The only way that I have been able to correct is to switch to a different activity and then back again.


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Argon #366516 02/13/12 09:47 PM
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Rob, I haven't had any problems like that with my 805.


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