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Re: Exciting News From Axiom!
Amie #372768 04/10/12 09:27 PM
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Good point. I've also asked about an option to support two centres (VP160/80) and Andrew hinted that they might produce an LFR centre.

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tomtuttle #372771 04/10/12 09:53 PM
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I wasn't thinking about room dimensions alone, but also whether a room is "live or dead" square or normal.


Fixed that for you.

Amie, you are doing a wonderful job with the blog.

I think you are on the right track. Mark is angling for the special 'square room' mode.


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SBrown #372774 04/10/12 10:03 PM
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Thanks for giving us a little more insight on the new speakers, Amie. Can't wait to get these babies up and running, then I will give you guys some pics of my setup.

Also, when I ordered my speakers, there was no option for the three board DSP (VP160) so I think I still owe you some money for that and want to make sure that it's added.Thanks


Call, Brent and JC can add it... I ordered mine over the phone and JC had no problem adding the 3rd channel for me.

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MarkSJohnson #372776 04/10/12 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson

So the future DSP option for the M80s and M60s simply flattens the frequency response of the speakers even more.


Correct. But it is more than just making the on-axis look better, it's taking into account the entire family of curves.

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Maybe this has been asked before, but can the DSP algorithm be updated in the field? And can a DSP be tailored to particular room acoustics?


No. Any firmware updated must be done by us at the factory. This also gives us a chance to make sure the update was successful, and gives us a chance to make sure the DSP is performing up to the original spec.

Room acoustics are a tricky issue and one that we feel is not correctly dealt with by the typical "auto" algorithms. The boundary switch will deal with the majority of "tricky" set ups and overly live rooms.

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Cohesion #372777 04/10/12 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted By: cohesion
Good point. I've also asked about an option to support two centres (VP160/80) and Andrew hinted that they might produce an LFR centre.


I did?

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dakkon #372778 04/10/12 10:13 PM
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If i remember correctly mark, the parts Andrew was looking at to have an "in the field update" would have been considerably more expensive.. So they will update the DSP at the factory, and also put the box on the test bench after the update to verify everything took prior to returning the unit.


I couldn't have said it better myself!

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avjunkee #372780 04/10/12 10:19 PM
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And can a DSP be tailored to particular room acoustics?



I believe this has been partially addressed with the implementation of a boundary compensation switch.

I thought it would be ultra neat if they could literally custom code the DSP for you if you provide them with all of your wall to speaker distances, but the switch is the next best thing.

Why not have a switch with more than one distance option (instead of simply greater than or less than 2ft)? Possibly because the've already tested and found that going more percise or with smaller increments didn't make any, much, or enough of a difference.



There are a couple of reasons for only having two settings:

I have found that the more options you make available, the more confusing you make system set up for the typical customer. It also makes it easier to "screw up" the performance with a wide range of adjustments. Fortunately in this case two settings are all you really need. One for a typical room that's not too live with a couple of feet of breathing room behind the speakers, the other for live rooms and/or a need for close to the rear wall positioning. smile

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Amie #372783 04/10/12 10:28 PM
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I like your approach, Andrew.


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tomtuttle #372785 04/10/12 10:34 PM
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I like your approach, Andrew.


Thanks Tom!
BTW, are you a Weisse/Weizen/Wheat beer fan?
(You can respond in the beer thread if you prefer!) smile

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Amie #372786 04/10/12 10:36 PM
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Andrew, can you say what the minimum impedance of the front speakers will be?

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