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#363825 - 01/15/12 11:43 AM Re: Real Wood Finishes [Re: PerfectDrug]
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Registered: 08/05/09
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Loc: Milky Way Galaxy
Originally Posted By: PerfectDrug
Do you have the wood or vinyl finish?


Most of mine are vinly. Only the M2 that I've placed over the center of my TV is real wood. Personally, I prefer the real wood finishes.

My subwoofer is the EP350 and it's covered with Cinnamon Beech vinyl. It goes naturally with my wood floors.

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#363826 - 01/15/12 11:45 AM Re: Real Wood Finishes [Re: CatBrat]
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Originally Posted By: CatBrat
Originally Posted By: PerfectDrug
Thinking maybe the 125 is too small then. Or how about dual 125's, if not a 175?


I'd stay away from the 125. I think you would be dissapointed in anything but the smallest of applications/rooms. When I think 125, I'm thinking along the size/power range of a good PC speaker setup.

The 175 is a better option, but I doubt it'd keep up with the M80's. It's better suited to the M2/M3/M22 sized speakers.


Good point. I think I may have to save up for the EP350 now. It looks like a beast of a sub.

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#363827 - 01/15/12 12:35 PM Re: Real Wood Finishes [Re: CatBrat]
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Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: CatBrat
Originally Posted By: PerfectDrug
Thinking maybe the 125 is too small then. Or how about dual 125's, if not a 175?


I'd stay away from the 125. I think you would be disappointed in anything but the smallest of applications/rooms. When I think 125, I'm thinking along the size/power range of a good PC speaker setup.

The 175 is a better option, but I doubt it'd keep up with the M80's. It's better suited to the M2/M3/M22 sized speakers.

CatDude is right.

So, What kind of music are you listening to? Unless it is music with considerable content below 35 Hz, a sub will add nothing to a pair of M80s. On most of the rock/pop/Jazz music I listen to, I can't tell the difference between M80s alone and M80s with my EP350 (I've done the comparison several times). Now, put on something like one of Bach's organ pieces and the sub contributes significantly to the music.

Some of the instruments that I know that can play below 35 Hz are: Upright bass, electric double bass, bassoon, Tuba, piano (not sure how often those lower registers are used), synth. There are probably a few others.

Considering the cost of the EP125/175 I would think about going directly to the M80. UNLESS you listen to music that has a significant contribution from the types of instruments I listed above. In that instance, I would go to the EP350 now and The M80s when the time is right.

On the real wood, it depends what you are after. The vinyl finishes are very, very good. But... if you want speakers that make you go WOW when you look at them, real wood is worth the money. I simply didn't have the money when I picked up my system.
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#363831 - 01/15/12 12:51 PM Re: Real Wood Finishes [Re: fredk]
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That's right. I hadn't thought of that. M80's by themselves have been reported to be very musical, so a subwoofer might be money wasted. Just save for a pair of M80's instead.

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#363840 - 01/15/12 04:14 PM Re: Real Wood Finishes [Re: CatBrat]
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Registered: 07/05/02
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Money is always a consideration but I have to tell you that I'd never go back to vinyl. Hard to explain but it just "looks right".
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#363843 - 01/15/12 04:28 PM Re: Real Wood Finishes [Re: fredk]
PerfectDrug Offline
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Registered: 01/11/12
Posts: 22
Originally Posted By: fredk
Originally Posted By: CatBrat
Originally Posted By: PerfectDrug
Thinking maybe the 125 is too small then. Or how about dual 125's, if not a 175?


I'd stay away from the 125. I think you would be disappointed in anything but the smallest of applications/rooms. When I think 125, I'm thinking along the size/power range of a good PC speaker setup.

The 175 is a better option, but I doubt it'd keep up with the M80's. It's better suited to the M2/M3/M22 sized speakers.

CatDude is right.


I listen to a lot of electronic music....downtempo, trip hop, dubstep, etc. Maybe a better option would be saving for a set of M80s. I wasn't sure of the impact they would have in the bass department, but seems like it would be more than enough. My little bookshelves are lacking right now but guess I can wait.

So, What kind of music are you listening to? Unless it is music with considerable content below 35 Hz, a sub will add nothing to a pair of M80s. On most of the rock/pop/Jazz music I listen to, I can't tell the difference between M80s alone and M80s with my EP350 (I've done the comparison several times). Now, put on something like one of Bach's organ pieces and the sub contributes significantly to the music.

Some of the instruments that I know that can play below 35 Hz are: Upright bass, electric double bass, bassoon, Tuba, piano (not sure how often those lower registers are used), synth. There are probably a few others.

Considering the cost of the EP125/175 I would think about going directly to the M80. UNLESS you listen to music that has a significant contribution from the types of instruments I listed above. In that instance, I would go to the EP350 now and The M80s when the time is right.

On the real wood, it depends what you are after. The vinyl finishes are very, very good. But... if you want speakers that make you go WOW when you look at them, real wood is worth the money. I simply didn't have the money when I picked up my system.


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#363844 - 01/15/12 04:29 PM Re: Real Wood Finishes [Re: FordPrefect]
PerfectDrug Offline
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Registered: 01/11/12
Posts: 22
Originally Posted By: FordPrefect
Money is always a consideration but I have to tell you that I'd never go back to vinyl. Hard to explain but it just "looks right".


What stain-grill combination did you go with?

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#363845 - 01/15/12 04:32 PM Re: Real Wood Finishes [Re: PerfectDrug]
PerfectDrug Offline
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Registered: 01/11/12
Posts: 22
Saving for a set of M80s might be a better option. I listen to a lot of electronic music...downtempo, trip hop, dubstep, etc. I was wondering if they M80s would have enough bass, but looks like they do.

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#363856 - 01/15/12 11:01 PM Re: Real Wood Finishes [Re: PerfectDrug]
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Registered: 07/05/02
Posts: 1334
Loc: Ancaster, Ontario
Originally Posted By: PerfectDrug
Originally Posted By: FordPrefect
Money is always a consideration but I have to tell you that I'd never go back to vinyl. Hard to explain but it just "looks right".


What stain-grill combination did you go with?


Cherry/Chestnut semi gloss with a black grill. Same combo as my M3s, EP350 and VP150 looks stunning. Guess I'll have to sell the VP150 now.


Edited by FordPrefect (01/15/12 11:02 PM)
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#368200 - 02/28/12 02:21 PM Re: Real Wood Finishes [Re: PerfectDrug]
INANE Offline
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Registered: 02/04/04
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Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
I'm planning on adding some M80's to my system... debating if it would look funny to have vinyl surrounds and real wood fronts.

Thoughts?
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