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New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? #369644 03/14/12 02:37 PM Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,625 Amie OP connoisseur OP Amie connoisseur Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,625 Luc's Facebook Comments on our grille-on pictures of the new speaker led us to wonder . . . after you buy the new omnidirectional wonder, will you leave the grilles on or take them off to see all 11 drivers in their glory? To Grille or Not To Grille? single choice Bare as the day they were built, baby! For goodness' sakes - cover up! Votes accepted starting: 03/14/12 02:36 PM You must vote before you can view the results of this poll. Last edited by Amie; 03/14/12 02:38 PM. Reason: added an image

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369645 03/14/12 02:39 PM Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island In general, I prefer "grills on" and leaving something to the imagination! ::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369646 03/14/12 02:43 PM Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy CatBrat axiomite CatBrat axiomite Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy Although sometimes I admit I prefer to look at them naked, it's more practical to leave them on. Especially if little "paws with claws" are prancing about. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...amp;usp=sharing

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369647 03/14/12 02:45 PM Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,863 dakkon connoisseur dakkon connoisseur Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,863 For me it would depend... For movie watching ect, i would want the grill on... As it would be distracting to have them off for watching a movie.. For stereo listening... i would be happy with them on or off.... With that being said, right now all of my grills are on. and my HT/Stereo listening is about 40/60... Stereo during the day, TV/movie at night.

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369650 03/14/12 02:47 PM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. W Wid axiomite Wid axiomite W Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 6,833 The Peoples Republic of Il. I am a grills on kinda guy. Rick "A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity." Sigmund Freud

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Wid #369651 03/14/12 02:50 PM Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 6,331 Cleveland, Ohio Ajax axiomite Ajax axiomite Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 6,331 Cleveland, Ohio Grilles on for me as well. Jack "People generally quarrel because they cannot argue." - G. K. Chesterton

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369653 03/14/12 02:52 PM Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 313 L LRA devotee LRA devotee L Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 313 I would leave the Grilles on but I would wish for a matching vp180 one. When I look at the front of my room I want so see matching speakers.

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Ajax #369656 03/14/12 03:07 PM Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,181 Likes: 1 Ottawa, Canada cb919 connoisseur cb919 connoisseur Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,181 Likes: 1 Ottawa, Canada I prefer them off, but the WAF dictates they stay on. I will happily concede this minor point on grills given there's full support on the HT front including upgrades! Dan On-Wall M5HP LCR, QS8 & EP500 in 7.1

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369658 03/14/12 03:12 PM Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,291 Quebec, Canada J J. B. connoisseur J. B. connoisseur J Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,291 Quebec, Canada most of the time, my M80's grilles are on so it does not distract me; but sometimes i take them off as i like the looks. See: http://www.blu-ray.com/community/gallery.php?member=Gelli or: Axiom Gallery

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369661 03/14/12 03:19 PM Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,955 PEI, Canada Murph axiomite Murph axiomite Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 6,955 PEI, Canada I personally like seeing the drivers but I voted for grilles on. Catbrat is correct. Pets = grilles on. With great power comes Awesome irresponsibility.

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Murph #369674 03/14/12 04:29 PM Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,005 Edmonton Alberta O onn connoisseur onn connoisseur O Joined: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,005 Edmonton Alberta All grills off for me. I want to see as much wood as possible. My system

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369682 03/14/12 04:43 PM Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island ::snicker, snicker:: ::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369683 03/14/12 04:44 PM Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,703 Omaha, Nebraska INANE connoisseur INANE connoisseur Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,703 Omaha, Nebraska Normally I leave my grills on but for this speaker I say off... mainly because I'm not a fan of those slanted lines on em. I'm more of a perpendicular kinda guy. -Ben HT v2.0 HT v1.0

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369684 03/14/12 04:44 PM Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 110 A avjunkee veteran avjunkee veteran A Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 110 Grills on for movies. Grills off for music. Door locked for toddlers. M80s, VP180, QS8s, EP800 v3

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369686 03/14/12 04:46 PM Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy CatBrat axiomite CatBrat axiomite Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy I'm beginning to think we may need a special closet just for the grills. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...amp;usp=sharing

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369692 03/14/12 04:57 PM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,488 Tacoma T tomtuttle axiomite tomtuttle axiomite T Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,488 Tacoma I'm just not a fan of the full-length front grill on this speaker and the M80. bibere usque ad hilaritatem

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369695 03/14/12 05:06 PM Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 110 A avjunkee veteran avjunkee veteran A Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 110 I thought this new speaker had segmented grills? Or does it just appear that way? M80s, VP180, QS8s, EP800 v3

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369697 03/14/12 05:09 PM Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,863 dakkon connoisseur dakkon connoisseur Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,863 i think the grill is recessed in the mid range section, to give the a more "design" look, that just a flat grill... i would bet Ian and andrew used the injection molding machine to get the backing to get the correct geometry, then stretch/glue the cloth material to the form.

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? dakkon #369699 03/14/12 05:12 PM Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 334 Likes: 5 Andrew Axiom Engineer devotee Andrew Axiom Engineer devotee Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 334 Likes: 5 It's actually 3 separate grilles.

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369707 03/14/12 06:23 PM Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 110 A avjunkee veteran avjunkee veteran A Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 110 That's what I thought. You can now have different grill configurations depending on your mood. Maybe even different colour options for the segments? I don't think I've ever seen a speaker with three different colours on the front. M80s, VP180, QS8s, EP800 v3

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369708 03/14/12 06:55 PM Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 92 Montana whippersnapper old hand whippersnapper old hand Joined: Feb 2012 Posts: 92 Montana Speaking of grills -- see, I'm on topic -- is it possible to buy replacement grills only in different colors? I assume it must be... Music is the best -- FZ

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369712 03/14/12 07:50 PM Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,625 Amie OP connoisseur OP Amie connoisseur Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,625 @whippersnapper - yes, you can order replacement grilles only without having to get a new speaker. Just give Brent a buzz at 1-866-244-8796 and he'll take care of it for you. @avjunkee - yes, we actually have an image showign the middle grille in charcoal grey. This will be added as an option in Customize Yours, for people who want that tricked-out look.

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369717 03/14/12 08:11 PM Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,466 Western Maryland, USA ClubNeon connoisseur ClubNeon connoisseur Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,466 Western Maryland, USA I recommend you get the grills in purple/green/red from top to bottom, so they are most transparent to their respective frequencies. Pioneer PDP-5020FD, Marantz SR6011 Axiom M5HP, VP160HP, QS8 Sony PS4, surround backs -Chris

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369718 03/14/12 08:30 PM Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making MarkSJohnson shareholder in the making Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 11,458 Rhode Island I was thinking the colors for your local NFL team...in-season of course. ::::::: No disrespect to Axiom, but my favorite woofer is my yellow lab :::::::

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369721 03/14/12 09:23 PM Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 110 A avjunkee veteran avjunkee veteran A Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 110 Very cool. I wonder who's idea it was to segment the grill? M80s, VP180, QS8s, EP800 v3

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? avjunkee #369723 03/14/12 09:49 PM Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy CatBrat axiomite CatBrat axiomite Joined: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,015 Milky Way Galaxy Originally Posted By: avjunkee Very cool. I wonder who's idea it was to segment the grill? I'm thinking strip tease artist, perhaps. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?...amp;usp=sharing

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369728 03/15/12 12:02 AM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,488 Tacoma T tomtuttle axiomite tomtuttle axiomite T Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,488 Tacoma Are the grills the only difference between the left and right versions? bibere usque ad hilaritatem

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369741 03/15/12 12:53 AM Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,463 Likes: 1 Glendale, Arizona St_PatGuy axiomite St_PatGuy axiomite Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,463 Likes: 1 Glendale, Arizona I like the grilles off. Especially with a nice wood finish like that. Like Tom said, the full length grille just covers too much, but I know that is predicated on the amount of drivers. Last edited by St_PatGuy; 03/15/12 12:54 AM. *********** "Nothin' up my sleeve. . ." --Bullwinkle J. Moose

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? tomtuttle #369742 03/15/12 01:00 AM Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 901 Victoria,BC S SBrown aficionado SBrown aficionado S Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 901 Victoria,BC Looks like it, otherwise would it be stereo. And what if you want a third for center? Or are these just for two channel, or can I conglomerate my M80's and center with Q's for the ultimate glory in listening performance?

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? tomtuttle #369743 03/15/12 01:01 AM Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 334 Likes: 5 Andrew Axiom Engineer devotee Andrew Axiom Engineer devotee Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 334 Likes: 5 Originally Posted By: tomtuttle Are the grills the only difference between the left and right versions? That and the angles of the rear baffles.

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? St_PatGuy #369744 03/15/12 01:03 AM Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 334 Likes: 5 Andrew Axiom Engineer devotee Andrew Axiom Engineer devotee Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 334 Likes: 5 Originally Posted By: St_PatGuy I like the grilles off. Especially with a nice wood finish like that. Like Tom said, the full length grille just covers too much, but I know that is predicated on the amount of drivers. The production grilles will have a reveal at the top and bottom of the baffle, allowing more of it to be visible.

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Amie #369745 03/15/12 01:06 AM Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,463 Likes: 1 Glendale, Arizona St_PatGuy axiomite St_PatGuy axiomite Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 7,463 Likes: 1 Glendale, Arizona Thanks for the info, Andrew. It's a shame to cover up so much of the speaker if one gets a custom finish! *********** "Nothin' up my sleeve. . ." --Bullwinkle J. Moose

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? Andrew #369746 03/15/12 01:08 AM Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,488 Tacoma T tomtuttle axiomite tomtuttle axiomite T Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,488 Tacoma Originally Posted By: Andrew Originally Posted By: tomtuttle Are the grills the only difference between the left and right versions? That and the angles of the rear baffles. Ah! Thank you! It was not apparent to me from the pictures that the rear baffles are not parallel to the front. bibere usque ad hilaritatem

Re: New Speaker: Grilles on or Off? St_PatGuy #369747 03/15/12 01:17 AM Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 334 Likes: 5 Andrew Axiom Engineer devotee Andrew Axiom Engineer devotee Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 334 Likes: 5 Originally Posted By: St_PatGuy Thanks for the info, Andrew. It's a shame to cover up so much of the speaker if one gets a custom finish! Agreed!