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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
Wid #370241 03/19/12 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: Wid

The Accends are very good speakers, I picked the 340s for my sisters theater system. Do they best my Axioms? No, no they don't but then again I have M80s.

Her center can't touch the VP160, that for sure. And the surrounds aren't even close to being as good as the QS series.

But they are a good speaker for the money, there's no arguing that.



The Sierra Towers are in a different league than the 340s. Ascends as do many other brands, offer different levels of performance based on price. Axiom uses the same drivers in all their products and as you go up in $$$, you get larger speakers that will play louder, but NOT better drivers or parts. The advantage to the Axiom model is it saves them $$$ by using the same drivers and building higher quantities to reduce costs while also using the same cut outs in their boxes.

BTW I have a VP150 which is NOT even listenable if I sit in the far left or right seats. I didn't understand why till I started reading about its lobing issues. How can a company of science make such a glaring mistake in a product?

I'd love to change out my VP150 to a VP160 but not after hearing how much better the Ascend Sierra towers are. Now I will just sell off my Axiom speakers but I may keep my QS8s b/c they do a good job and are wall mounted.

Looking at the Ascend Sierra Center, I'm not sure that's a good solution b/c it will suffer the same issue as my VP150.

http://www.ascendacoustics.com/pages/products/speakers/SRM1C/srm1c.html

I think I'd rather have a VP160 in this case.

Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
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Well I suppose at a tad over $1900 they should sound good. Then a $700 tweeter upgrade? If the tweeter is that good they should offer it as standard equipment.

For that kind of money I'd be a Magnepan owner.


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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
Wid #370244 03/19/12 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: Wid

Well I suppose at a tad over $1900 they should sound good. Then a $700 tweeter upgrade? If the tweeter is that good they should offer it as standard equipment.

For that kind of money I'd be a Magnepan owner.



I know its an expensive tweet and I agree I'd probably consider other options at that price like Salk or even the Maggies.

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I agree. Looking at the specs of the Accend towers and the Axiom M80 the M80s actually best the Accends. So maybe they're not as good a deal as I would have thought from a budget speaker company.

Looking at the frequency graphs of both the M80s also look smoother, just sayin.


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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
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Originally Posted By: Wid

I agree. Looking at the specs of the Accend towers and the Axiom M80 the M80s actually best the Accends. So maybe they're not as good a deal as I would have thought from a budget speaker company.

Looking at the frequency graphs of both the M80s also look smoother, just sayin.


Measurements are easily manipulated and Axiom doesn't give you the detail of measurements that Ascends does. Not a fair comparison. Ascend's actually gives you off axis response and waterfall curves and they use 50dB scale. The Axiom measurement is a 120dB scale and only on-axis!

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OMG I am drooling now. Where is that on their website! WOW!

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I think its only available as of right now through requests only. But I think it will be a new model listed on their site later.

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I think you should both buy Ascends but only with the $700 tweeter upgrade. I know you'll hear the difference.


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Adrian #370256 03/19/12 05:14 PM
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I think you should both buy Ascends but only with the $700 tweeter upgrade. I know you'll hear the difference.


or I could be like you and buy the kool aid that sonic nirvana has been achieved with what you already have.

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