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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
SBrown #370551 03/22/12 01:31 AM
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Shawn, no you can't tell us that as a "fact". Carefully controlled blind listening tests have failed to support claims about magic cables. It's unlikely that you have contrary data, personal or otherwise.


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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
Cork #370557 03/22/12 02:27 AM
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These are my opinions that not worth anything to those who don't agree.

For me, an audio/video RCA type cable simply shunts electrons from one component to another & provides grounding & shielding from RFI. No more, no less as long as the cables are not defective.

Speaker wire simply passes electrons from the amp to the speakers. As long as they are of an adequate gauge for the length of the run & they aren't subject to RFI along the way, then they will work most satisfactorily.

I have a large supply of normal grade RCA cables so I don't expect to be purchasing fancy expensive ones soon. I just don't believe that I'll hear a difference.

I use inexpensive 12 GA generic speaker wire to my M22s & a fairly long run of 16 GA lamp wire to my rear QS4s (largely due to trying to fit them under my baseboards). My audio system also uses similar long runs of 16 GA under the baseboards with no detrimental effects that I can determine.

Everything in both systems works just fine. The electrons get to where they are supposed to & my systems are dead quiet indicating that RFI is not a problem here. All of my Axioms & Velodynes sing nicely with the way that they are connected.

Works for me.

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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
SBrown #370564 03/22/12 04:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: SBrown
I have a few expensive cables and can tell you for a fact that they DO make a difference. Especially on the source player,(i have an Oppo)it is there.

Try one if you don't believe me, and if you don't agree "bill me" I could use a couple more. smile



Define "expensive" i have these kimber cables
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=KKHE0144

130$ each....

These are the XLR cables i have
http://www.audioadvisor.com/prodinfo.asp?number=KKHEBAL
160$ each...

My memory was slightly off, i knew they were a buck something...


I also have a LOT of these..
http://www.av-outlet.com/en-us/dept_37.html
30$ each...

Personally, i can not tell the difference between the 130$ cable, or the 30$ cable.... I am also NOT going to go to the 500-1,000$ cables, if i cant hear a difference... Maybe your buying the 1,000$ cables, and they do make difference over the 30$ cable? Personally, i would rather invest the other 970$.... But that is just me... I would like to be able to retire early laugh

Also, SBrown.. I am not trying to start a pissing contest, just trying to clarify and quantify "expensive," to me 130-160$ea IS expensive.... especially when you have to buy many of them, due to no HDMI in ones system.


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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
dakkon #370572 03/22/12 05:27 AM
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I don't know about you guys but I can tell....let's just leave it at that! I know, I know...

Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
Cork #370574 03/22/12 05:33 AM
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To each his own, i am not going to tell you that "you" can not hear a difference.. no one can tell someone else what they can and can not hear...


This is one of those topics that can go on for ever if so chosen...

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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
Cork #370579 03/22/12 07:44 AM
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Unfortunately the unrelenting Axiom bashing at Audioholics is again so severe that Gene had to tell the 'experts' over there to knock it off (page 8 of the thread).

My gawd there are some really fanatical, nasty characters over there. This stuff is almost a religion to them...

Tom
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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
exlabdriver #370582 03/22/12 11:42 AM
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Why do some you feel compelled to report back what is going on over there. I am sure enough of us follow various forums and come up to speed with what is being said or discussed in cyperspace. TLS put his foot in his mouth again and was quickly put in his place....it's not the first or the last time he'll accomplish that feat!

Like I mentioned before take it up with him there and call him out...I'm sure you'll get some support there as well.

This thread is so far off it's not even discussing the original topic at hand!

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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
Cork #370586 03/22/12 01:18 PM
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Happy Birthday.

Good idea. Leave it over there.


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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
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I put my order in for Sierra Towers! Woohoo!

Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
billy p #370614 03/22/12 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: billy p

This thread is so far off it's not even discussing the original topic at hand!


Yep, that is what happens here when people just shoot the (----).. Most topics here only stay "on topic" for about the first page or 2.. Depending on who is contributing.... But then again, that's what makes this environment a good distraction. If you have a question you can most likely get an answer... Maybe 2 different ones depending on if me and John are contributing wink .


If you look at the new speaker thread, even that one has gone off topic...

We are mainly a bunch of guys with ADD, who enjoy audio and shooting the (----)......

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