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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
Cork #370671 03/22/12 11:16 PM
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can anyone tell me which car is the best one?

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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
billy p #370672 03/22/12 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted By: billy p

No I have not heard the Axiom Towers but the 22's are a very good benchmark for others to compare against. Based on what I hear in my home the NrT is much more fluid and dynamic vs. the Axiom twet and the Sierra mid range has amazing detail and resolution. I use the 22's along with my sub but even with the sub the Towers are still better. BTW...I had the Sierra 1 for about 6 months and compared them with my 22's a more apples to apples comparison with about the same results....just my sujective and un biased opinion....

And thanks for the BD wish....Bill

Billy, given that you are comparing an in/on wall 22 (a compromise speaker) to a full blown tower, the tower should sound better.

There are some comparisons of the W22 to M22 around here, and the M22 is a better performer. From memory, the W22 sounded 'thinner' in some respects.

I'd love to give those Ascends a listen some time, but I hardly ever head out your way.

BTW, the great thing about this hobby is that there seem to be a LOT of smaller companies out there building a good product. This market seems to have resisted the consolidation that often goes on in mature markets.


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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
gtpsuper #370678 03/23/12 12:16 AM
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VP150 is what soured my opinion of Axiom. It just wore on me over the months and years. Finally I just gave up trying to make it sound better. Started researching and demoing for months to find something better and noticed just about any center I tried outperformed the Axiom VP150 hands down.


I too was unimpressed with the 150....at first. After making adjustments in placement, AVR settings and most importantly moving my sub to the front, it now sounds amazing. The off axis response isnt an issue in my current set up. Once we move to a larger room i'll look at buying a Klipsch RC64,Paradigm Signature C5, or 180.


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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
Cork #370679 03/23/12 12:16 AM
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This is why I love my Axioms and this forum.


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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
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Great post Mark!

Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
ghost271 #370684 03/23/12 01:36 AM
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Once we move to a larger room i'll look at buying a Klipsch RC64,Paradigm Signature C5, or 180.

Why not a VP160 to match your M60s?


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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
MarkSJohnson #370686 03/23/12 01:50 AM
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Once we move to a larger room i'll look at buying a Klipsch RC64,Paradigm Signature C5, or 180.

Why not a VP160 to match your M60s?


I may do that as well but I want the biggest MoFo I can get, and will likely upgrade to the M80s.


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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
fredk #370687 03/23/12 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted By: fredk
Originally Posted By: billy p

No I have not heard the Axiom Towers but the 22's are a very good benchmark for others to compare against. Based on what I hear in my home the NrT is much more fluid and dynamic vs. the Axiom twet and the Sierra mid range has amazing detail and resolution. I use the 22's along with my sub but even with the sub the Towers are still better. BTW...I had the Sierra 1 for about 6 months and compared them with my 22's a more apples to apples comparison with about the same results....just my sujective and un biased opinion....

And thanks for the BD wish....Bill

Billy, given that you are comparing an in/on wall 22 (a compromise speaker) to a full blown tower, the tower should sound better.

There are some comparisons of the W22 to M22 around here, and the M22 is a better performer. From memory, the W22 sounded 'thinner' in some respects.

I'd love to give those Ascends a listen some time, but I hardly ever head out your way.

BTW, the great thing about this hobby is that there seem to be a LOT of smaller companies out there building a good product. This market seems to have resisted the consolidation that often goes on in mature markets.


You'd be more than welcomed to come over if your ever up this way...I have cold beer in the fridge but what I like best about this hobby is meeting new people in GTG and hearing other peoples rigs... smile

I wouldn't sell the w22's short as they replaced my Energy RC30's and I really like my Rc's at the time.

Regards, Bill

Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
billy p #370695 03/23/12 02:58 AM
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Originally Posted By: billy p

No I have not heard the Axiom Towers but the 22's are a very good benchmark for others to compare against. Based on what I hear in my home the NrT is much more fluid and dynamic vs. the Axiom twet and the Sierra mid range has amazing detail and resolution. I use the 22's along with my sub but even with the sub the Towers are still better. BTW...I had the Sierra 1 for about 6 months and compared them with my 22's a more apples to apples comparison with about the same results....just my sujective and un biased opinion....

And thanks for the BD wish....Bill

Billy, given that you are comparing an in/on wall 22 (a compromise speaker) to a full blown tower, the tower should sound better.

There are some comparisons of the W22 to M22 around here, and the M22 is a better performer. From memory, the W22 sounded 'thinner' in some respects.

I'd love to give those Ascends a listen some time, but I hardly ever head out your way.

BTW, the great thing about this hobby is that there seem to be a LOT of smaller companies out there building a good product. This market seems to have resisted the consolidation that often goes on in mature markets.


You'd be more than welcomed to come over if your ever up this way...I have cold beer in the fridge but what I like best about this hobby is meeting new people in GTG and hearing other peoples rigs... smile

I wouldn't sell the w22's short as they replaced my Energy RC30's and I really like my Rc's at the time.

Regards, Bill

Thanks for the invite. I hope to be able to take you up on that some time.

I'm not selling the W22 short. It is a great speaker for a particular application, but it is represent a design compromise that affects sound quality.


Fred

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Re: Scoop on Axiom Subs?
MarkSJohnson #370746 03/23/12 03:34 PM
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Buying a speaker is one of the hardest purchases to make. Over a period of 30 years i have moved a great number of times.During those 30 yrs ihad the same speakers and they did not sound the same every single time i moved. No matter where or how you auditon a speaker when you get it home it is not going to sound the same.Before i ever give up on a set of speakers i will do a lot of room treatment first.

JBall please share your experience once you get your new speakers home.I do not have a golden ear and i am always interested to hear direct comparisons. And yeah dont be sorry, a freind of mine has paradigms and he raved about them,yet i felt they were nothing special. To each is own i say.


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