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Re: Large TV Advise
CatBrat #375379 05/07/12 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted By: CatBrat
I found the 70 inch sharps, including the $8000 Elite model to have very poor off angle viewing. That's one reason I'm opting for a Panasonic Plasma. Except I'm shelling out more for the 65 VT50 version, probably. There's one con to the VT50 that bother's me, and that's the stupid shiny silver lining around the edges of the bezel.


I'm not sure if the chrome strip on the vt50 is the same as the vt30 but I have grown to like the look on my 65vt30.

Regarding the original question, I'd go with the panny 65 st 50. If budget wasn't an issue I'd go for the 65vt50

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Re: Large TV Advise
INANE #375380 05/07/12 04:22 AM
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I'm extremely happy with my 65 vt30, If you can get one in your budget go for it! Be careful with open box sales of plasmas though that may have excessive image retention from store display discs, etc.

I hear the st 50 is just about on par with the vt30, so in my opinion I would be choosing between 65 st50 and 65 vt30 as both are similar in price.

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Re: Large TV Advise
INANE #375397 05/07/12 01:38 PM
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I'm definitely going for the 65 VT50. I'm going to have the money for it in about 3 weeks, so why not. That silver bezel edge is smaller then the one on the VT30. The ST50 doesn't have the day and night time THX modes. For me, that's a deal breaker. The VT50 has 2 professional modes that I plan on having a calibration done. Might pick a calibrator from AVSFORUM site, but I want someone that can calibrate the 3D mode. So far, 3D mode calibrators seem to be a scarce bird.

Edit: Why would I care about daytime THX mode when I have blackout curtains and a calibrated plasma? Because I may not want to always sit in a dark room and watch movies.

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Re: Large TV Advise
INANE #375455 05/08/12 03:51 AM
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I'm seriously considering the P65GT30 since it's well over $500 less than the VT30 (~$1700 vs $2400) and only slightly more than the ST30 (~$1500). I don't think I can justify any of the XX50 models as they are all well over 2k.

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INANE #375474 05/08/12 05:39 AM
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What's the main difference between the 30 and the 50?

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dakkon #375493 05/08/12 01:45 PM
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What's the main difference between the 30 and the 50?


If I had to pick one topic, I'd say it's the newly designed panel. Of course, that then leads into all of the other differences, that the new panel provides.

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INANE #375521 05/08/12 04:46 PM
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Here's a quote from avsforum, from this link. Which sums up the performance of the ST30 vs the ST50.

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I can't speak to the GT30 to GT50 but going from the ST30 to ST50 was a MAJOR upgrade in image quality.

I had the misfortune of cracking the screen on my 11 month old p60st30 and have had a p55st50 in my home for about a week now and it is very evident which TV performs better.

ST50 does better in all of areas below.
1. Noticeably better black levels. With any lighting in the room the black bars appear to blend into the bezel

2. Brighter screen but not at the expense of color saturation

3. Cleaner image. Not sure what it is about this set but it has a MUCH clearer image when watching compressed content such as DTV or Dish.

4. Much more accurate skin tones

5. No green or red shift like last years ST30

6. No audible buzzing from the set unless the content is all white and takes up most of the screen. Even then, you have to listen for it. The ST30 would buzz when switching resolutions or no content is on the screen. The very slight buzz you do hear if you hear it at all is a much more palatable frequency as well.

7. Built in Wi-Fi

8. Lighter and much more modern looking. Looks very similar to the PNxxD7000. Very nice form factor

9. The frame interpolation is handled much better this year. Turning motion smoothing to low does not give you nearly the soap opera affect as last years model.

10. No shifts in brightness at all when you defeat the ABL feature in Custom mode under pro settings.

11. HDMI ports are off the side rather than the back so you don't have to worry about clearance for your cables when mouting it on the wall

12. Blu tooth 3d glasses sync up quickly and stay in sync at further distances than last years model. The new 2012 3d glasses are much cheaper and much lighter and more comfortable.

13. Does not seem nearly as susceptible to IR. My ST30 had some issues with this. I have not seen even a hit of IR on this set after several hours of gaming on it. I would still recommend being careful as you would with any plasma display.

14. Massively improved anti glare filter. On my ST30 I could see reflections of the TV that were bouncing off pictures I had on the wall behind my central viewing position. Can't see this at all with this set. Really big improvement. It almost fools you into thinking you are watching TV on a matte screen it is that effective.


This set is so superior to my now broken ST30 I am almost happy the ST30 was broken. It is WAY better than the ST30 so based off this I would have to assume the ST or GT50 would be better than last years GT30.

I would go so far as to say there is absolutely nothing the ST50 does not do better than the ST30. This is how I would expect a quality Plasma to operate and look.

Hope my observations help. I have nothing but great things to say about this years models and what it does do better it does noticeably better. Huge leap in everything that counts from my observations.

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Re: Large TV Advise
INANE #375527 05/08/12 05:20 PM
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Well, so much for being satisfied with a good deal on last year's model.


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tomtuttle #375530 05/08/12 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted By: tomtuttle
Well, so much for being satisfied with a good deal on last year's model.


I think I still will be because the cost of the 2012 models is way to rich for me.

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INANE #375546 05/08/12 07:02 PM
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Yeah, maybe a GT, though?


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