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#381340 - 08/11/12 11:38 AM Re: LFR1100/ADA [Re: CV]
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Great news!

Seems like you need to finish your home theater so you can just say, "let's wait for that to come to video, and we'll watch it here."
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#381341 - 08/11/12 11:58 AM Re: LFR1100/ADA [Re: ClubNeon]
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I'll still be impatient for some movies, but yeah, the local theaters aren't going to be competing with my sound system.

My first impressions of the LFR1100s now that I'm running them correctly are that yes, the rear-firing drivers do add a bit to the depth of the sound. Just a little more natural. The ADA1000 certainly seems to be enough for them at this listening distance in this room. I'm playing them as loud as I can comfortably listen to them, and there's no hint of distortion. Loud and pure. So far I'm just listening to 2-channel music. It sounds like I'll be harder-pressed to notice a major difference with movies in full surround based on the limited comments already out there.
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#381347 - 08/11/12 04:05 PM Re: LFR1100/ADA [Re: CV]
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Originally Posted By: CV
So far I'm just listening to 2-channel music. It sounds like I'll be harder-pressed to notice a major difference with movies in full surround based on the limited comments already out there.


I do quite a bit of 2-channel listening as well... However, with that being said, i have noticed a difference with movies as well. Like you said, one would not think that there would not be a noticeable difference while watching movies. However, there is a distinct difference and in my system, they added a decent amount of depth...


On a side note, can you give your opinion of the difference between the Emotiva and Axiom amps? I would be interested to hear you opinion on that matter.


Edited by dakkon (08/11/12 04:06 PM)

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#381351 - 08/11/12 10:31 PM Re: LFR1100/ADA [Re: dakkon]
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Originally Posted By: dakkon
On a side note, can you give your opinion of the difference between the Emotiva and Axiom amps? I would be interested to hear you opinion on that matter.


The Emotiva has one less channel, is bigger, and weighs a lot more. They both amplify transparently. I can't really compare further since I'm unable to do direct A/B comparisons, and I'm running the front and rear drivers of the LFRs with the ADA1000 while I was only running front drivers of the LFRs with the XPA-3. I definitely don't regret getting the Axiom amp. This one will be powering the surrounds once I get the ADA1500-4 for the fronts. I guess the Emotiva will power the center at some point, though I don't currently have a place to put it. I'll eventually have Axiom amps all around. I'm still holding out for a pre-pro or receiver that gives me enough features over my current one, including doing simultaneous heights and wides (even if their value may have gone down with the LFRs in the system).
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#381352 - 08/11/12 11:04 PM Re: LFR1100/ADA [Re: CV]
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Originally Posted By: CV

The Emotiva has one less channel, is bigger, and weighs a lot more.

The Emo is a Class A/B amp which explains the extra weight. My large 2 channel is a class A amp, and weighs 90lbs....... This is part of why i was asking what your opinion was, since the Axiom amp is a digital amp as compared to the class A/B you're use to.

Originally Posted By: CV
I'm still holding out for a pre-pro or receiver that gives me enough features over my current one, including doing simultaneous heights and wides (even if their value may have gone down with the LFRs in the system).


I am waiting to get the Integra DHC-80.3, or the next version... It just depends.. I am pretty happy with my current processor, it just doesn't have HDMI and the new networking stuff... So, i guess like yourself i am not in a rush to get something new but at some point i will make a purchase.

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#381353 - 08/11/12 11:53 PM Re: LFR1100/ADA [Re: dakkon]
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Alex, the Axiom(class D switching)isn't a digital amp, and there's no good reason to expect that two high quality units wouldn't both amplify transparently when operated within their designed limits.
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#381354 - 08/12/12 12:12 AM Re: LFR1100/ADA [Re: CV]
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John, i am pretty sure that an amp which operates as a Class D amp by definition is a digital amp, due to the way it operates.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class-D_amplifier


I would agree that there should not be any significant difference between the Axiom amps and the Emo's for all practical purposes. But, it would still be interesting to hear a comparison between the two designs.

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#381356 - 08/12/12 12:34 AM Re: LFR1100/ADA [Re: dakkon]
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No; D is simply the class that followed C. See brief discussion here .
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#381357 - 08/12/12 12:41 AM Re: LFR1100/ADA [Re: CV]
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No audible difference between Class A and Class D amplifiers? Really?
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#381360 - 08/12/12 02:03 AM Re: LFR1100/ADA [Re: CV]
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