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#306829 - 05/16/10 11:08 PM Re: Auditioning Axioms In Your Area [Re: Lampshade]
woodsart Offline
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Registered: 05/13/10
Posts: 11
Lampshade!!!!

You may have taken me over the edge of the 60s and hopefully the edge is near when I get that chance to hear them in Tampa. Thanks for that glowing report of the little 'devil QS8s' as well. I would like to hear them, hoping though, that they sound more like angels!!!!

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#306834 - 05/16/10 11:47 PM Re: Auditioning Axioms In Your Area [Re: woodsart]
Lampshade Offline
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Registered: 11/08/05
Posts: 1165
Loc: Holbrook, MA
Ahh Woodsart. Then I shall reveal more.

I was really looking forward to hearing the M60's, but I have to admit that I was a little biased against them. I thought that they were going to be solid performers but not spectacular.
I have a lot of experience with detailed, quick, and superbly imaging speakers. I was shocked when I heard the M60's. Were they as good in those areas as other speakers that I have? No. But almost. Breathing down their necks almost. And the M60's could do things that the other speakers can't. I wish I had bought the 60's five years ago.

Percussion was dreamy.

I have never owned a subwoofer. If I get the 60's I will never need one. I don't have a big theater room that needs pressurizing. The bass was very good. Tight. Musical.

I wish I had them for a few weeks so I could really squeeze out what they could do.
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#306836 - 05/16/10 11:53 PM Re: Auditioning Axioms In Your Area [Re: Lampshade]
Lampshade Offline
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Registered: 11/08/05
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Loc: Holbrook, MA
Ohh..and the QS8's. Now I have to save up for another Stingray to run a pair of QS8's . Ha HA! And the QS8's looked great on the Axiom Stands.
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#306838 - 05/17/10 12:48 AM Re: Auditioning Axioms In Your Area [Re: Lampshade]
woodsart Offline
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Registered: 05/13/10
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 Originally Posted By: Lampshade
Ohh..and the QS8's. Now I have to save up for another Stingray to run a pair of QS8's . Ha HA! And the QS8's looked great on the Axiom Stands.


Well, Mr. Lampshade...I have to let you down a bit, I am really interested in the 80s!! But I think I need to hear the 60s as well. My room is 20X24 and oddly arranged, Because of that, I want to size down to 5.1 rather than the 7.1 I now enjoy. So, the 80's may produce a broader sound stage than the 60's. And along with QS8s, they might just work.

And I am also looking at the ERDs...Shhhhhh!! Don't tell.

One problem is trying to find a owner that is close to hear them all. Hope that will be worked out soon.

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#306839 - 05/17/10 01:17 AM Re: Auditioning Axioms In Your Area [Re: woodsart]
Lampshade Offline
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Registered: 11/08/05
Posts: 1165
Loc: Holbrook, MA
I wanted the 80's, I have never heard the 80's, but now know that I don't need the 80's. Although It would be nice to have a pair of High Gloss Orange Piano FInish 80's. My needs are probably different from yours. I don't need to shake my house of the foundation and I don't think I will ever have a center channel. The 60's are more than loud enough and low enough for me.
Good luck!
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#306860 - 05/17/10 09:50 AM Re: Auditioning Axioms In Your Area [Re: Lampshade]
woodsart Offline
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Registered: 05/13/10
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Lampshade....yeah it would be nice to squeeze all one can get from the 60s, but almost impossible without posession! And posession means purchasing. I may change my mind on the 60s when I hear them.

I'll be upgrading from the Infinity Primus line of high end entry level speakers.

You also have me wrong. We are much alike, it is that the room is large with hardwoods and high ceilings. The 80s appear to be good without a sub as well. I don't like the loud rumble rumble sound, just clear SQ! I have been encouraged to go this route by getting the 80s. As was mentioned in another thread, save your pennies and get what you want or you will be back here in this thread whinning about upgrading again and they are right.

So, I am trying to avoid that. My wife can only take so much of this! I will be ordering very soon the XPA-5 that is for starters. I look forward in hearing the Axiom line of speakers.

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#306941 - 05/17/10 05:45 PM Re: Auditioning Axioms In Your Area [Re: woodsart]
HAY Offline
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Registered: 12/31/03
Posts: 720
Loc: Burlington, Ontario
 Originally Posted By: woodsart
I will be ordering very soon the XPA-5 that is for starters.

You might want to search the forum on this as I recall some owners of Emotiva products having shut down issues when using the M80's.
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#306946 - 05/17/10 06:01 PM Re: Auditioning Axioms In Your Area [Re: HAY]
woodsart Offline
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Registered: 05/13/10
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Hay!

Yes, I am aware of that, however, most are being driven by Onkyos and Avs that are not design for 4ohms (capable, but not designed). I will driving them with and Emo XPA-5 the only way to go! Not enough power and driven too high can cause the shut down, or at least those are the generalized issues with the 80s that I have read. Even my Onk806 has the 4ohm setting, but I don't think I can trust it either.

Thanks,
Rob

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#306949 - 05/17/10 06:18 PM Re: Auditioning Axioms In Your Area [Re: woodsart]
grunt Offline
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Registered: 12/04/06
Posts: 3569
Loc: Nirvana
I played my M80s for two hours at 100dB from 11-12 feet w/o shutting down or clipping my Onkyo 3007. I did get it to shut down five minutes later by bumping it up to 105dB. I never got my Denon 2807 to shut down with my M80s but I couldn’t push it as hard because it would start clipping.

The shutdowns Hay is talking about are specific to certain Emotiva amps mainly the XPA-2 AFAIR. Emo claims it’s because the M80s dip down to 2ohms, however I don‘t see aht in the impedance graphs. I believe at least one Emo owner here had his XPA modified by Emo with a different protection circuit so it doesn’t suffer the shutdown problem. AFAIK not all Emo amps have this issue with the M80s just one or a few.
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#306950 - 05/17/10 06:22 PM Re: Auditioning Axioms In Your Area [Re: grunt]
Ken.C Offline
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Registered: 05/03/03
Posts: 17788
Loc: NoVA
Yeah, it's mostly their high end amps, although I've never heard of an RPA-2 shutting down. And I don't know anyone crazy enough to have XPA-1s.
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