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#386601 - 12/04/12 03:10 PM Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you? [Re: SBrown]
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Originally Posted By: SBrown
See you guys later, I'm going golfing. grin

Golf: Hockey variation that can be played when the tundra un-freezes.
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#386602 - 12/04/12 03:14 PM Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you? [Re: DL30]
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I thought that tundra never un-froze. Hence: tundra.
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#386603 - 12/04/12 03:20 PM Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you? [Re: DL30]
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If JP doesn't stop releasing all that hot air......
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#386604 - 12/04/12 03:26 PM Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you? [Re: MarkSJohnson]
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Originally Posted By: MarkSJohnson
If JP doesn't stop releasing all that hot air......

we'll have to start calling him asphyxi8r?
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#386606 - 12/04/12 03:33 PM Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you? [Re: DL30]
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I haven't sat with him in awhile, so I was only referring to his talking. I guess you have more experience with him.
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#386610 - 12/04/12 04:30 PM Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you? [Re: DL30]
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Thanks for the clarification Murph!

Everything I have learned about Canada recently has come from HGTV. I believe almost their entire M-F primetime line up is filmed in and around Toronto, which may explain my short-sighted info re provinces and the Canadian water heater market.

I personally think most of those shows are filmed in Canada as an ingenious way to slowly convert 'mericans to the metric system wink
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#386617 - 12/04/12 09:54 PM Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you? [Re: DL30]
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I remember my parents buying a phone for the first time instead of renting one and it was a touch tone instead of tone dial.
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#386631 - 12/05/12 12:06 AM Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you? [Re: DL30]
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Hey Guys, just a follow-up. Indeed, it is mostly an Ontario thing. It was unfair of me to lump the rest of the country in.

But renting is huge here. Out of Direct Energy's 1.4 million customers, about 600,000 rent water heaters. And that's just one company. Kitchener Utilities also has a massive customer base that rents.

Framer - Yep, it's steep. But do a quick on-line search for a PV50 gas water heater. Prices range from $1000 to $1500. Add shipping, overhead, installation, a small mark-up, and you hit $2300 before you can even blink. Net profit is only about $350.

Oh, and I remember how excited my mother was when she rented our first touch-tone "Contempra" phone! It was sometime in the mid 70's, and we had arrived!! Too funny.
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#386632 - 12/05/12 12:09 AM Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you? [Re: real80sman]
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That's it, that was the phone!
Originally Posted By: real80sman
Oh, and I remember how excited my mother was when she rented our first touch-tone "Contempra" phone!
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#387138 - 12/20/12 06:08 PM Re: Canadians, what is wrong with you? [Re: DL30]
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Originally Posted By: DL30
I have always looked to Canada as the sensible, yet still cool neighbor to the north. Sensible politics, logical health care system, good music, fantastic speakers. Kinda like a cool, older brother who just says his O's funny.

But then I found out something that has left me crestfallen, broken-down and disheartened:
MOST CANADIANS RENT THEIR HOT WATER HEATERS!!!!
And yes, it deserves all caps. Of all the things sensible
Canadians do well, they are taken like rubes at a carney by renting a product that is easily cheaper to buy than rent.

One service, Direct Energy, charges over $15 a month for a water heater. Direct Energy has over 1.4 million customers in Ontario. So that's $180 a year for a product that lasts 10-15 years and is virtually maintenance free.

We just paid $750 for a top of the line 50 gallon water heater (heater and labor installation costs included). Barring any substantial mishap (our last heater lasted 12 years), we are paying $5.20 per month or approx $62.50 per year to own our water heater, or at a Direct energy customers rate of pay, we will have paid off the water heater in a little over 4 years.

Canadians are raked over the coals leasing water heaters. It's horribly irresponsible. Canadians, I thought I knew you. Please tell me you don't fall for those Nigerian $$$ scams too. Please tell me you are the cool brother I thought you were.


This news should make you happy DL. The competition bureau is after Direct Energy for their business practices regarding water heater rentals.

http://www.thestar.com/business/article/...energy-reliance
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