Axiom Home Page Forums General Discussion Stereo LFR 1100 owners….

I am trying to find some first impressions from LFR 1100 owners. I want to find out how you are enjoying the speakers, and what speaker you were listening to prior to the LFR's.

Has anyone listened to them directly, and when I say that what I mean is just connected the same way you would any other stereo speakers, how did you like it?

I just finished listening to mine for the first time, and I am curious about what I heard or didn't hear!

I would really appreciate hearing about your experience.

thanks!

Good luck, there are a few on this forum with the 1100's. I can't help as I don't have the green $$$

Give me a couple weeks, and I will have a comparison between the M80's V3 and the new LFR1100's.
What are your first impressions and what speakers did you replace?

What do you mean by this? Do you mean without the DSP?

If you mean without the DSP, no i haven't tried that, and i won't.. Andrew spent too much time programming all that stuff not to use it...

Prior to the LFR's I was using a pair of M60's.

The biggest thing that I personally noticed was that the sound was much more enveloping when listening to stereo content. This is also true for some movies as well. When I get a new Blu-ray player I may notice more.. My current one does not decode the newest HD audio codec’s…

Hope this helps

Except when you're sending the DSP back to Axiom for a code update. At least, that's when I listened without the DSP, and I also went DSP-less initially when I didn't have enough external amp channels. Of course, minus the DSP, that means I also wasn't utilizing the rear-facing drivers. They're still impressive-sounding, basically what you'd expect an M80 with an extra woofer to sound like.

Thanks for the replies. I have had a couple of minor setbacks since taking delivery of the LFR's and I was looking for information of how the LFR's sounded because I knew it should be better than what I know the M80's can do. On my initial set up I wasn't impressed at all however found out that I had a few problems that needed to be and so I have not had much time running the speakers with the DSP. What I have heard I have been happy with and I will provide more information as the weeks move on.

I have played them extensively without the DSP and absolutely loved them. I have had a couple versions of the M80, and although I have used different amps this current set up has better control over the base than I did with the M80.

Since I put up the original post I have been in contact with Axiom and we are working to get my setup tweeked. I know that my concerns are being addressed.

I take it that you got your upgraded DSP back now. Did you notice an improvement? I've been tweaking other parts of my system and reluctant to be without my DSP so haven't sent it back yet. Wondering whether to finally do it or wait for the next update...

what do you mean when you are talking about sending theDSP back for updated? why are they updating it?

There is a new code available. The new code has been available for a month or two i think.

Just bumping this thread. I also have the LFR's and am curious to hear others' impressions. In my case I also replaced a set of M80's but in parallel also added an ADA1500 (was previously just using a receiver). Then I added another amp to drive my centre (thru the DSP) and surrounds. There have been noticeable improvements at each step but I cannot directly compare my original setup to my current one.

My amps are the same, with the addition of a second larger 2 channel amp. However, the larger 2 channel amp has pretty much the same design. Exact same gain as the smaller amps... The "sound" is pretty much the same as my M60's, with a much wider field, and more dispersed sound field. This is mainly due to the design of the rear firing speakers and my room configuration.



More enveloping would be the best way to describe it.

Yes, the M80s are no slouch. As I have a pair as well as the 1100s. Good choice!

The M80s to me seemed that I wanted them louder and louder, they can play so clean. The LFRs sound to me just what I want to hear. I actually can't hear where the sound is coming from on a good CD with the QSs and the DSP box with the VP160.

I do have Outlaw mono's running the front soundstage, but am saving for an Axiom 1500 5 channel amp. Then that's it....

Famous last words!

yeah, says the guy who's using M80's as height speakers!!!!





I had to Shawn :~)

Yes, but Alex you have not one but two EP600s,I think you have me beat. Onn, can you put another chair in your room for me if I stop by? lol

shawn, yeah... But!! those are "necessary", and there is a 3rd in the works.... m80's as heights, well. !!

Let me know when

As good a description as I can come up with. It's not easy to describe the sound of the LFR's!

So you have one amp for your centre, surrounds, and the rear channels of the LFR, and another for the LFR fronts? What are their output ratings? I was thinking of doing something like this myself but wasn't sure how well it would work.

This is a question for all LFR owners...
Do you toe them in and if so can you notice the difference in the reflected sound coming from the back or side walls?
I'd assume that many would have these installed well off their rear walls and that they would be a bit more forgiving of less than ideal installations while promising near perfection for those who take the time to find it.
My new listening room/HT's drawn up but your answers may help with the final dimensions.
Its a year away at best but my current plans are for a 8 x 19 x 28 dedicated room with LFR's 8' off the back (back of speaker) spaced 12' apart.
I'm interested in hearing thoughts from all of you.

Cohesion, not exactly..

1 amp (1,200 watts @ 2ohm/per channel) for front speakers on the LFR's
1 amp (500 watt @4 ohm/per channel) for rear speakers on the LFR's
1 amp (500 watt @4 ohm/per channel) for center + 2 surrounds.

So, 2 stereo amps, and 1 three channel amp.


brwsaw read the below pdf. Start on page 15.

http://wilsonaudio.com/pdf/manual_soph3.pdf


my LFR's are 14 inches away from the wall, and about 13 feet apart.. they are towed in about 5-8 degrees, don't know the exact angle...

Thanks. I'll read the link shortly.
That's roughly the setup I've used for my M80's.

I was a little off..only 7'6" center to center. Still 16" off the wall (I moved the ent. unit out to match the appearance and brought the screen closer at the same time).

Thanks for that info! Dude you need way more amp power!!

Seriously though it must be a great setup! Just curious why you quoted the 2 ohm output power for the LFR fronts. Thought they were rated at 4.

That Wilson guide is quite good too.

Have you tried the boundary compensation switch on the back of the DSP?

i quoted the 2 ohm rating because that is what the amp is stable to.. The minimum impedance of the LFR's is just above 3 ohms.


No, i don't think i have tried the Boundary compensation switch.. i hooked everything up and then just enjoy it.. I guess i could....

Interestingly a pair of LFR1100 in rosewood came up for sale locally rather recently.
Coincidence?