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#388272 - 01/12/13 01:35 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Gary Vose Sr]
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Originally Posted By: Gary Vose Sr
If I had gone with the projector though, I was going to go with dual M22's as my center channel. As cb919 has stated, some lean towards a vertical over a horizontal if possible. You have a capable power amp which would allow you to wire in series using only one channel. When it comes to audio able sounds, these bookshelf speakers are sup positively giant for their size. It would be possible to toe them out a bit for some great in room dispersion. You won't get a great deal of bass from this center channel set up, but in my option it won't be missed. Let the sub or subs do the heavy lifting. The M22's will then be responsible for clean, clear, crisp dialog which it can easily handle.


Hello smile hmm interesting take on the M22's for a center. Has anyone else on this board done something like this?

And you say this can be properly wired with my power amp? Can you explain how I would do this with only one center channel input on my Rotel?

Just like speakers are designed and designated to be "surrounds" doesn't the same hold true for center channels? I'm open to learning more. As I see it right now, the vp160 or vp180, for example, are designed specifically for center channel duties, designed to work harmoniously with m60s or m80s to create a seamless soundstage.

I like the idea of saving money on a center and putting it towards the new receiver I need.

On your note about B stock. I'm very ocd when it comes to nicks, scratches, glue, etc. I thought about it, and my logical mind says to buy b stock. Unfortunately, my logical mind isn't strong enough :P I won't be able to do it. lol I've already budgeted for the system new.
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#388273 - 01/12/13 01:47 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Mad_Chesser]
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On your cable take the positive lead to the positive binding post on one of the M22's. Then the negative lead to the negative binding post of the second M22, then add a jumper cable from the negative to the positive binding posts of the two speakers.
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#388274 - 01/12/13 01:50 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Mad_Chesser]
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Well, I've made a personal decision that I want Pioneer's MCACC.

Base model to have pre outs is the sc-61. Listed for $1399. I already had an offer from a local store for $980.

Once I get word whether this is happening or not, I'm going to begin selling all my speakers and equipment, work some overtime and purchase the amp before the Axioms even arrive.

My minds made up. I know I'll be happy with it. Thank you to all. This thread is still opening my mind to great ideas. I can't thank you enough.

Now I'm trying to research this whole center channel thing.

So far, future system will be

Pioneer sc-61
2 M80's
1 Vp160
2 QS8
1 EP800
PS3
Oppo bdp-103

But right now, debating on the center channel...
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#388275 - 01/12/13 01:51 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Gary Vose Sr]
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Originally Posted By: Gary Vose Sr
On your cable take the positive lead to the positive binding post on one of the M22's. Then the negative lead to the negative binding post of the second M22, then add a jumper cable from the negative to the positive binding posts of the two speakers.


I've never heard of that. This is considered safe and common?

Very cool. I'm using a paradigm bookshelf speaker for a center right now. I'll mess around with two of them and give it a try today smile
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#388277 - 01/12/13 02:06 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Mad_Chesser]
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Yes, think of it as just jump starting a car, the same principal here. You start out on the positive lead on the running vehicle, and then return to the negative lead on the running vehicle(starting out on the positive lead on the amp, then returning to the negative lead on the amp).
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#388278 - 01/12/13 02:10 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Mad_Chesser]
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My 3 sets of Axiom speakers & Axiom stands are 'B Stock'.

With mine, flaws if there are any, are virtually invisible. I wondered why they were classed as 'B Stock' in the first place. Axiom is quite anal about this & perhaps they use big magnifying glasses during their inspection process.

Good way to save some bucks IMHO as it is to buy a HT package...

TAM

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#388279 - 01/12/13 02:13 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: exlabdriver]
Gary Vose Sr Offline
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Registered: 03/17/12
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Loc: Casa Grande, AZ
Originally Posted By: exlabdriver
My 3 sets of Axiom speakers & Axiom stands are 'B Stock'.

With mine, flaws if there are any, are virtually invisible. I wondered why they were classed as 'B Stock' in the first place. Axiom is quite anal about this & perhaps they use big magnifying glasses during their inspection process.

Good way to save some bucks IMHO as it is to buy a HT package...

TAM


I agree, just leave the grilles on and forget about it.
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#388280 - 01/12/13 02:33 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Mad_Chesser]
exlabdriver Offline
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Registered: 09/07/11
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I didn't see any flaws with the grills off.

I must retract my last somewhat - I found a small flaw on 1 of my M3s. They were 'B Stock' Real Wood veneer that I won on auction as the only bidder (when that was happening at Axiom). I realized a tremendous savings - over $200 for the pair. I found it in the veneer (undoubtedly from the veneer factory) after protracted, close inspection under strong light.

Again, I was astounded that this was considered to be 'B Stock' - absolutely invisible in its normal placement in the room. I would defy anyone to find it...

TAM

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#388281 - 01/12/13 03:02 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Mad_Chesser]
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Registered: 02/28/08
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Loc: Edmonton Alberta
Welocome to the forum Nick
See you on the 2nd
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#388283 - 01/12/13 03:17 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: onn]
fredk Offline
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Registered: 12/06/07
Posts: 7031
Loc: Canada
Originally Posted By: onn
Welocome to the forum Nick
See you on the 2nd

shocked shocked You are auditioning his system? Baaad idea. You're going to need a LOT more $$$ after you see his real rosewood system. grin

I run dual M2 centers (one above, one below the display). It works very well and they integrate well with the M80.

You are correct, though, that center channels are purpose built. In this case the issue they address is form factor. Most people cannot accommodate a vertical center (let alone two) in their HT setup.
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