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#388862 - 01/27/13 07:47 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Mad_Chesser]
exlabdriver Offline
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Registered: 09/07/11
Posts: 814
Anything that I've ever used is in liquid form, totally legal, sold by the provincial government & taxed to the hilt.

As I'm now an old phart, my excess episodes are very few & far between thus saving my speakers from needless abuse. I don't recover like I used to, ha!!

TAM

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#388863 - 01/27/13 09:05 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: exlabdriver]
Mad_Chesser Offline
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Registered: 01/11/13
Posts: 195
Loc: B.C., Canada
lol funny responses so far.

I know it's bad for me, but I can't help but love the power of incredibly loud music. I know I'll probably end up regretting it years from now. And like others, it's only when I'm sauced up that the volume gets that high. lol

Mark: I have 4 Radio Shack Mach Ones in very good condition sitting in my basement with a Mos Fet LX1 series power amplifier(push/pull dc amp)

http://www.canuckaudiomart.com/details/648991083-lxi_mosfet_am4222_power_amp_w_am4022_preampwow

Quite and interesting power amp. The speakers sound fantastic for 30+ years old
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#388866 - 01/27/13 09:47 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Mad_Chesser]
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Registered: 12/26/03
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Loc: Calgary, Alberta
Yes, the Crown calculator isn't the best for a home setting, I just went with it because I knew they had one on their web page.


Here is a better amp power calculator that actually speaks to the room reinforcement before you get down to the calculator as well as a DB level exposure table at the bottom

http://www.allegrosound.com/Power_AllegroSound.html

I can remember seeing a calculator that actually added the room reinforcement into the equation, checked 2 pages worth of searches still haven't seen it......
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#388869 - 01/27/13 10:07 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Mad_Chesser]
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On hearing damage, the Etymotic paper linked above has some good info, such as the discussion of the work of Kujawa and Liberman, indicating that even so-called "temporary" loss may have long-term consequences. However, it discusses only the OSHA standards for work place noise, which should not be applied for home listening. Although it recognizes that the OSHA standard allows for some long-term loss, more stringent standards which all but eliminate this possibility aren't described.

In discussing power requirements I typically emphasize safe hearing levels and am not amused by those who want to be able to "crank it". An article here discussing safer standards has been cited before and emphasizes the inappropriateness of applying a work place standard which allows for some hearing loss to "community" venues such as listening at home. Table 1. there compares the standards, showing the much more stringent ones of the EPA and World Health Organization intended to prevent any significant chance of damage.
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#388871 - 01/27/13 10:31 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: JohnK]
Mad_Chesser Offline
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and am not amused by those who want to be able to "crank it"


Well you are entitled to your opinion. I don't think any organization, governing body, or person should be able to have any say in how I listen to my music though. It's what "does" it for me and I HIGHLY enjoy it.

Do I take chances with my hearing? Definitely. Have I experienced some hearing loss already? Probably. Is it worth it? In my own personal opinion...definitely.
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#388872 - 01/27/13 10:49 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Mad_Chesser]
CatBrat Offline
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Registered: 08/05/09
Posts: 5663
Loc: Some random location
Huh? What you say sonny? Speak up. All I can hear is this ringing in my ears.

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#388873 - 01/27/13 11:15 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Mad_Chesser]
Socketman Offline
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Registered: 07/12/09
Posts: 1010
Loc: Whitehorse YT
Originally Posted By: Mad_Chesser
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and am not amused by those who want to be able to "crank it"


Well you are entitled to your opinion. I don't think any organization, governing body, or person should be able to have any say in how I listen to my music though. It's what "does" it for me and I HIGHLY enjoy it.

Do I take chances with my hearing? Definitely. Have I experienced some hearing loss already? Probably. Is it worth it? In my own personal opinion...definitely.



Imagine if you, can having your wife nagging to you in your ear 24 hours a day , 7 days a week for the rest of your life. Tinnitus is 10 times worse, so yeah they are your ear but err on the side of common sense. grin


Edited by Socketman (01/27/13 11:15 PM)
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#388874 - 01/27/13 11:21 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Mad_Chesser]
CatBrat Offline
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Registered: 08/05/09
Posts: 5663
Loc: Some random location
I have tinnitus, constant ringing, I've learned to ignore it the best I can. But it's always there.

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#388875 - 01/27/13 11:25 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: CatBrat]
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Hence, the "constant" part.
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#388877 - 01/27/13 11:30 PM Re: A new Axiom owner soon! I have questions... [Re: Mad_Chesser]
Socketman Offline
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Registered: 07/12/09
Posts: 1010
Loc: Whitehorse YT
Anything that raises your blood pressure makes it worse. Ie coffee, cigs , booze ,stress. I am learning to ignore mine but its not easy .
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