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#391994 - 04/13/13 11:29 PM Re: ADA1000 3ch vs XPA-3 vs three Outlaw M2200 [Re: jakewash]
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Jason, since Troy's off the board now, I'll note that he's proposing to use one of the separate amplifiers named in the thread title in combination with the MRX500.
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#392006 - 04/14/13 07:44 PM Re: ADA1000 3ch vs XPA-3 vs three Outlaw M2200 [Re: troyd]
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There it was hiding in plain sight, thanks John.
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#392100 - 04/17/13 02:51 PM Re: ADA1000 3ch vs XPA-3 vs three Outlaw M2200 [Re: jakewash]
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Originally Posted By: jakewash
Originally Posted By: troyd
Is this not true ? I am looking at the Anthem MRX500 upgrade amd was going to get one of these amps to run the front three and let the Anthem take care of the rears.


Was there supposed to be a link to an external amp somewhere in there? The MRX is an avr like your PIO, so not much difference, you would need an external 3ch. amp to do as you are suggesting.


Yup, I did order the Anthem MRX500. I will give this a shot as JohnK said. However, I am thinking I want a 3 ch or three mono amps for my front three.

I just want more gas in the tank and all reviews and reading I do, everyone says how much better is sounds with an external amp running the fronts.
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#392102 - 04/17/13 03:26 PM Re: ADA1000 3ch vs XPA-3 vs three Outlaw M2200 [Re: troyd]
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If ya got the yearnin and the money I say go for it. I bought an xpa 3 for my m80's and don't regret it one bit. That's what this hobby is all about, good for the economy too. Enjoy
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#392117 - 04/17/13 10:36 PM Re: ADA1000 3ch vs XPA-3 vs three Outlaw M2200 [Re: troyd]
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Very good, Troy; the MRX500 should serve you well.

Using the "more gas in the tank" attempted analogy though, indicates that you may not be grasping the concept. A car doesn't run any better with ten gallons in the tank than with one. If the tank was completely empty, then there's a difference. If the amplifier in the receiver can supply enough voltage for the needed volume, there's no benefit in buying another unit with a higher voltage supply which would just sit there partly unused.
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#392219 - 04/19/13 11:00 PM Re: ADA1000 3ch vs XPA-3 vs three Outlaw M2200 [Re: JohnK]
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Originally Posted By: JohnK
Very good, Troy; the MRX500 should serve you well.

Using the "more gas in the tank" attempted analogy though, indicates that you may not be grasping the concept. A car doesn't run any better with ten gallons in the tank than with one. If the tank was completely empty, then there's a difference. If the amplifier in the receiver can supply enough voltage for the needed volume, there's no benefit in buying another unit with a higher voltage supply which would just sit there partly unused.


not enough power. I am tunring the reciever to about oh say +5 db there not a whole lot left. It has the volume display onscreen and the power bar is about 80 - 85% up.

I would love it and feel more comfortable if I was oh say about 30%


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#392226 - 04/20/13 12:16 AM Re: ADA1000 3ch vs XPA-3 vs three Outlaw M2200 [Re: troyd]
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I always see JohnK as a strictly by the numbers type of guy. If the numbers or chart says it's good then it has to be good, or good enough. Myself, I prefer to throw away all the numbers and charts and let my senses tell me whether it's good or not.

That's why I shun Denon/Audyssey as inferior to Pioneer/MCACC of near equal value. That's also why I have 6 speaker boxes surrounding the TV. More sounds better. Although 2 would probably be good enough, numbers wise.

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#392230 - 04/20/13 01:02 AM Re: ADA1000 3ch vs XPA-3 vs three Outlaw M2200 [Re: CatBrat]
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I think your theory would fall apart in a blind listening session. smile
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#392244 - 04/20/13 05:08 PM Re: ADA1000 3ch vs XPA-3 vs three Outlaw M2200 [Re: troyd]
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I doubt it.

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#392331 - 04/22/13 11:49 PM Re: ADA1000 3ch vs XPA-3 vs three Outlaw M2200 [Re: troyd]
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Originally Posted By: troyd
Yup, I did order the Anthem MRX500. I will give this a shot as JohnK said. However, I am thinking I want a 3 ch or three mono amps for my front three.

I just want more gas in the tank and all reviews and reading I do, everyone says how much better is sounds with an external amp running the fronts.

If you like to listen/view music and movies at a loud volume you are on the right path. The sound itself being "better" is another issue which I find highly subjective and I try to stay away if I can.
More powerful amp vs anemic receiver is a different story; we can go with the car analogy, although I think I posted something similar in another thread.
CAR 1 - 120 HP and 160 Km/h top speed
CAR 2 - 300 HP and 280 Km/h top speed

a) Cruising on a highway at 120 Km/h means using the car at 75%. For CAR 2 it means ~43%; which one do you think will last more?

b) 5 persons and same luggage in both cars; which one do you think will perform better? Which one you think will consume less gas? NOTE for those not believing: there is test done by Top Gear between a Toyota Prius and a BMW M3; the beemer turned out to consume less gas than the hybrid car driven at the same speed. Google it.

Take the above with a grain of salt as this is only my personal opinion, but since you asked on a forum... I though I give it a go smile.
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