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#209600 - 05/27/08 09:49 PM Re: gas grill advice needed [Re: real80sman]
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Registered: 12/29/05
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My 48" kitchen range and 30" outdoor grill are both made by DCS, if the Weber is great at 650.00 I would call it a steal. You probably want to get something that you won't have to replace every couple years.
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#209602 - 05/27/08 09:58 PM Re: gas grill advice needed [Re: HomeDad]
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Registered: 05/16/02
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
 Originally Posted By: HomeDad
My 48" kitchen range and 30" outdoor grill are both made by DCS, if the Weber is great at 650.00 I would call it a steal. You probably want to get something that you won't have to replace every couple years.


I would say that the Weber is a very solid mainstream consumer grill, and worth every penny of the $650 they are asking. As a step up, without question, I'd buy a Napoleon. But you really can't compare either of them to your DCS, as it's considered a "professional" or "commercial" product.
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#209606 - 05/27/08 10:30 PM Re: gas grill advice needed [Re: real80sman]
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I've got a Spirit 310. Love it, even without the stainless steel stuff. which I'll buy as soon as what I've got rusts through, which looks like next summer.
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#209625 - 05/28/08 12:25 AM Re: gas grill advice needed [Re: spiffnme]
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Craig, for a less expensive grill which might not have the durability of the Webers you might consider this .
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#209626 - 05/28/08 12:40 AM Re: gas grill advice needed [Re: spiffnme]
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Registered: 05/27/08
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Loc: West Vancouver, BC, Canada
 Originally Posted By: spiffnme
I stopped and looked at some grills today and one stood out as just about exactly what I was looking for, but it was $650!


I bought this model from a specialty shop, as one person already recommended, with all stainless steel parts inside. This is key because my previous grill did not have stainless parts and the entire interior corroded within a few years. Over time the graudal rusting causes hot and cold spots, is more difficult to clean, and in the end, the cost of replacing all the rotten parts with quality new ones did not make economic sense to me. Personally, I'd rather apply that $ towards a better, higher quality new one that will last longer.

My father has a Weber Genesis he purchased 8 years ago and it's still running strong.

I've had the new one for 3 months now and am happy as a clam, steak, burger, lamb.......
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#209639 - 05/28/08 03:12 AM Re: gas grill advice needed [Re: honkongphooey]
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Registered: 05/16/02
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
But just don't run out and buy a Q just because it has stainless innards. There are different grades of stainless..... Units manufactured off shore tend to use 430 stainless which will still rust out within about 3 years. (And then good luck getting parts) The better units from North America mostly use 304 stainless. The best way to tell is to run a magnet over the steel. If it doesn't stick - it's 300 series.

Here is a whole lot of Stainless Steel info you will probably never need to know.
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#209640 - 05/28/08 04:19 AM Re: gas grill advice needed [Re: real80sman]
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Registered: 02/26/05
Posts: 5210
Loc: Vero Beach, Florida
 Originally Posted By: real80sman
Craig, if you can, buy the Weber's from a specialty shop instead of the big box stores. The Genesis that THEY sell will be about the same $$, but have stainless flavorizer bars and stainless cooking rods. (Instead of porcelain coated mild steel) Far better for longevity.


Ours is a Weber Genesis S-320 that we bought from Home Depot which included the stainless flovorizor bars and stainless cooking rods, great grill ... we also sprang for the Weber grill cover which is very impressively made. This grill, so far, looks like it is the perfect grill for the harsh salt water environment where we live.

As far as grilling great tasting food, it's hard to beat a charcoal grill. We had one of these $129 charcoal grills from Lowes for about three years that we were extremely happy with but the steel just didn't last in this environment ... it cooked better tasting food over our $850 Weber gas grill, hands down.
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#209649 - 05/28/08 06:40 AM Re: gas grill advice needed [Re: RickF]
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Registered: 05/16/02
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Loc: Ontario, Canada
Rick, you need a ceramic "Kamado" - The Big Green Egg!
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#209654 - 05/28/08 08:19 AM Re: gas grill advice needed [Re: real80sman]
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Registered: 10/05/06
Posts: 6820
Loc: PEI, Canada
I never go crazy with my barbaque purchases. I live near enough to a bay on the ocean that I have to constantly clean the salt spray off my windows. I'm not close enough waves are actually splashing up or anything but you'd be surprised how far that stuff carries on the wind.

Even taking care to keep it covered, the salt eats through my barbacues on a regular basis. Even stainless steel. Stainless can last a very long time in a salt environment if you have the time to keep rinsing it clean but I'm just not that ambitious and the steel parts will still fall apart around it anyways.

This story is of no help to you I guess but thanks for letting me rant.
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#209691 - 05/28/08 11:43 AM Re: gas grill advice needed [Re: Murph]
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The Spirits are mostly stainless steel. The non-stainless models merely do not have a stainless lid or stainless grates or flavorizer bars. You can get new grates and flavorizer bars for $50.

I'd stay away from John's Walmart special. In those cases, you don't even get what you pay for...

An example.
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