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#398641 - 11/18/13 10:37 AM Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere [Re: CV]
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The panels came out great. I could lose whole days down there. smile
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#398643 - 11/18/13 10:51 AM Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere [Re: nickbuol]
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Nice job, Nick!!
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#398756 - 11/22/13 12:24 PM Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere [Re: nickbuol]
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Registered: 09/16/04
Posts: 4334
Loc: Marion, IA
So I get asked from time to time to point out key things in this thread, and maybe someday I will create an index or something, but for now, here are some of the videos, in order, from start to current status. FYI We didn't start anything in the basement until the beginning of June 2011:

Jan 18, 2011 - Original basement before we bought the house.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8d38h-ftUY

Oct 1, 2011 - Basement update - Moved Beam, moved bath, framing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EppTFwrS3vg

Dec 11, 2011 - Drywall into the basement
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li_Lkg2eHcI

Dec 11, 2011 - Drywall off the truck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UPSEP3VgXA

Feb 10, 2012 - HT Hat Channel/Insulation (dead room), Some Drywall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAu_CQ31kzE

Feb 24, 2012 - Drywall (pre-mud)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVcbjKgwSBE

Nov 7, 2012 - LEDs up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9A7cGst5U0

April 21, 2013 - Star Ceiling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pffyvZxS57Q

Nov 17, 2013 - Panels up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iT9Lj5kA0Ek




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#399156 - 12/07/13 08:13 PM Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere [Re: nickbuol]
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Loc: Marion, IA
Had a little fun and made this intro today...

I'm sure that you can guess what it is before you even click on it, but I put a picture here anyway.

Startlight Theatre Intro (Pixar)



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#400230 - 01/20/14 04:21 AM Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere [Re: nickbuol]
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I took a really excellent picture of an Android operating system cellphone on my iPhone once. Then I used a picture manager software kit app on my iPhone to create it look like the Android operating system cellphone was surrounded in fire.

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#401844 - 03/10/14 11:25 PM Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere [Re: nickbuol]
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Registered: 09/23/12
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Hey nickbuol,

I often return to this thread for planning ideas.

I am in the drafting stages for my new room. I'm curios as to whether you pre-calculated the front speaker locations according to room modes and boundary effect in your space? I'm working the maths and began to wonder if it is worth eating into the room 4' to get my mains in their mathematically "ideal" location behind the screen wall. Thx.

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#401850 - 03/11/14 11:14 AM Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere [Re: nickbuol]
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Registered: 09/16/04
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Loc: Marion, IA
Honestly? No. I just with a little over 2' deep behind the false wall and have the speakers as close to the screen/false wall as possible (which is about 4" behind the material itself). I couldn't see eating up 4' of room space, even with a 24' deep room.

The wall behind my false wall is treated and the side corners are floor to ceiling bass traps which help with some of the nodes, or if nothing else it changes them to some degree. The addition of a 2nd subwoofer up front (not as ideal as one in the back of the room) helped a lot with room nodes. Also, there are some math that points to the idea that the room itself more dictates the room node locations for the listening area more than the speaker locations, but it is there.

From some of my notes that I saved:

SEAT LOCATIONS:
To avoid harmonic peaks and nulls in the room, seats should be placed at one (or more) of the following locations.
WIDTH:
.20, .32, .45, .55, .68, .80 of the width of the room
LENGTH:
.55, .68, .80 of the length of the room (away from the front solid wall)

Note that the notes mention nothing about where the speakers are, but where you listen in relation to the hard walls in the room. These were taken after a lot of research from "experts" including web sites and video interviews/discussions. Once I started seeing these numbers repeating, I figured that there must be some trust to these being accurate. NEVER was mention of where the front speakers should be as far as distance from the front wall. Not saying that there aren't some numbers somewhere, but I never read it or saw it when I was researching. There were numbers as to how far away things should be from side walls, but that was more for the subwoofers.
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#401853 - 03/11/14 12:14 PM Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere [Re: nickbuol]
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Thanks! smile Your numbers agree with mine. In a couple of books I have read these are tried and true target ratios for any rectangular room.

In a htgeeks vid #178 there is mention of avoiding peaks and nulls in loudspeaker placement so as not to influence low frequency output ie. <300Hz. My prior room didn't follow rules for speaker locations, but did for seating. I am designing my next room with fidelity as priority #1, as video is far less demanding planning wise to get optimum results... You must be glad you are finished. Oh wait, there is no such thing as finished! grin

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#402314 - 04/01/14 12:18 PM Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere [Re: nickbuol]
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Registered: 09/16/04
Posts: 4334
Loc: Marion, IA
Hey, my theater has been included in a home theater acoustics ebook....

I've been talking with the author for some time now and I haven't seen the final product myself yet (should be getting it today)...

Just thought that it was interesting...
Practical Home Theater Acoustics eBook
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#402316 - 04/01/14 12:25 PM Re: Maybe I should start a v4.0 build thread somewhere [Re: nickbuol]
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Registered: 03/28/14
Posts: 78
Your panels make you the lord of the Acoustic rings. Sorry... the ring design... bad joke.

Kudos to you for the recognition of your hard work. They look great and I'm sure work wonders. smile
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