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#399765 - 01/05/14 05:57 PM Re: A Few Receiver Questions to Power M80v3's [Re: Captain4105]
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The axiom weighs 58 lbs my Emo xpa 3 weighs 57 lbs an XPR 2 is 100lbs the 7 channel Emo is a measly 29lbs. Not sure what the weight difference is depending on how many channels with the axiom. I looked at outlaw but that's in the 3500 bux plus shipping.
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#399766 - 01/05/14 07:01 PM Re: A Few Receiver Questions to Power M80v3's [Re: Captain4105]
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First thing the Emo's and Axiom's amps are two different type amp.. you can't really compare them it's like apples and oranges

Emo amp is type A/B class

Axiom amp is type D class

you can compare Axiom to D-Sonic

Emo's can compare to Outlaw


D-class amps are generally more expensive to make are cool & more efficient with power

A/B class is cheaper to make, generates heat & less efficient with power

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#399767 - 01/05/14 07:06 PM Re: A Few Receiver Questions to Power M80v3's [Re: Captain4105]
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All I was comparing was the weight to the forklift reference but you make a good point for sure.

The XPR2 at 100lbs is a class H. The whole weight versus power thing is a myth. Also AB may not be as efficient but it believed to be better sounding, if you believe amps sound different.
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#399768 - 01/05/14 07:11 PM Re: A Few Receiver Questions to Power M80v3's [Re: Socketman]
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Originally Posted By: Socketman
All I was comparing was the weight to the forklift reference but you make a good point for sure.

The XPR2 at 100lbs is a class H. The whole weight versus power thing is a myth. Also AB may not be as efficient but it believed to be better sounding, if you believe amps sound different.


the D class amps look really sweet, I will for sure get one soon..
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#399769 - 01/05/14 07:17 PM Re: A Few Receiver Questions to Power M80v3's [Re: Socketman]
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Originally Posted By: Socketman
The axiom weighs 58 lbs my Emo xpa 3 weighs 57 lbs an XPR 2 is 100lbs the 7 channel Emo is a measly 29lbs. Not sure what the weight difference is depending on how many channels with the axiom. I looked at outlaw but that's in the 3500 bux plus shipping.


I have TWO Outlaw 7125s, great amp especially if you can line up a "B-Stock" item however, they are hard to get and go quickly. FYI, about the high end 7 channel Outlaw, except for their 200 watt monoblock amp which is manufactured in Taiwan, all of Outlaw amps are made for them by ATI technologies out of California, once again, like Axiom, another reason for the price differential with Emo.

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#399770 - 01/05/14 07:23 PM Re: A Few Receiver Questions to Power M80v3's [Re: JBG]
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Outlaw multi channel amps all manufactured in NA, don't know about all of the components country of origin though.
The Model 7700 at 200 watts 8 ohm load or 300 watts 4 ohm load with all 7 channels driven, weighs in at a back breaking 94 lbs (207 kgs?)is priced well below 3500$, around 2200$ I believe.
Sure class A/B are different from class D but they both deliver the same thing, power for our Hobby! With fairly efficient speakers Class A/B amps are a solid candidate for a system.
just my 2 cents /Jeff
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#399771 - 01/05/14 07:43 PM Re: A Few Receiver Questions to Power M80v3's [Re: Captain4105]
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My lowcal determines my purchase decisions. Emo is in TN which mean expensive shipping plus duties and taxes etc. I took a look at bryston but I can barely afford to look at their website. If I sell my Emo I will get myself a ADA-1250 5 channel and leave the rest to my Denon. I have a inquiry in with axiom about upgrading later down the road .I buy more Canadian all the time, even when shopping in town I try to search out American/Canadian products first.

Watch this and then buy from china.

https://youtube.googleapis.com/v/4FrGxO2Fn_M
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#399772 - 01/05/14 08:08 PM Re: A Few Receiver Questions to Power M80v3's [Re: Captain4105]
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anyone heard of WYRED 4 SOUND ?
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#399773 - 01/05/14 08:21 PM Re: A Few Receiver Questions to Power M80v3's [Re: Strider53]
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My bad, 94 pounds is hardly 207 kilograms, maybe 42 kilos?
Poor typing skills
/Jeff
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#399774 - 01/05/14 08:24 PM Re: A Few Receiver Questions to Power M80v3's [Re: JBG]
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Originally Posted By: JBG
anyone heard of WYRED 4 SOUND ?


Thanks for sharing this , looks like another interesting source for affordable amps. Looks like their big dollar amps are Ice Power which is B&O modules from what I have read elsewhere.
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